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Old 02-07-2013, 07:01 AM   #27151
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the 'Brain' equipped suspension system makes it feel every bit as rigid as a road bike until a big enough bump activates an inertial valve, allowing the suspension to compress.
Which is exactly why my GF and I, both, have brain-equipped MTBs. My only regret is getting a Stumpy instead of the Epic. Oh well.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:11 AM   #27152
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Which is exactly why my GF and I, both, have brain-equipped MTBs. My only regret is getting a Stumpy instead of the Epic. Oh well.
Do these 'brain' equipped suspension systems require any extra maintenance? I wonder why other manufacturers haven't come up with something similar.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:19 AM   #27153
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Got the opportunity to test ride the 2013 Specialized Epic S-Works 29er recently. OMG. Handling is razor sharp, and the 'Brain' equipped suspension system makes it feel every bit as rigid as a road bike until a big enough bump activates an inertial valve, allowing the suspension to compress. I must have spent close to an hour riding over various obstacles and making suspension adjustments to see how each one affected the bike. By the time I finally got back to the store I half expected that they'd already called the police to report a theft. At a non-negotiable price of $10,000, it definitely won't be following me home though.
The SpecialHuffy dealer in Cheyenne got the trailer o' bikes from SpecialHuffy to come out.

OMG does that Epic S-Works pedal itself up the mountain* or what?! I didn't like the 29er as much as I did the 26er, but I think that had more to do with gearing than anything else.



...and yeah, the price tag threw me off too.

Today: 1:10 easy. Evidently there's a NorEaster coming and my sinuses are jacked. I went anyway, but I'd rather be in bed.

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*Curt Gowdy State Park has some great riding. Recommended if you're in the area.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:32 AM   #27154
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The SpecialHuffy dealer in Cheyenne got the trailer o' bikes from SpecialHuffy to come out.

OMG does that Epic S-Works pedal itself up the mountain* or what?! I didn't like the 29er as much as I did the 26er, but I think that had more to do with gearing than anything else.
I've heard it's all about the rider, not the bike.

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...and yeah, the price tag threw me off too.
My first car cost me about $7800, brand new. I just can't see spending thousands more than that on a bicycle, no matter how nice it is.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:35 AM   #27155
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I've heard it's all about the rider, not the bike.
It is. That last tenth of a percent or so is the bike. The first 99.9% is the rider. You may be able to argue that up to maybe the last 5%, but a fast rider is still going to be a fast rider whether he's on a hoopty or an S-Works.

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My first car cost me about $7800, brand new. I just can't see spending thousands more than that on a bicycle, no matter how nice it is.
Gotcha beat. Mine cost me $20. ...but then I proceeded to throw $1200 of repairs at it.

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:53 AM   #27156
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I just did a 'make an offer' thing on ebay and won the seatmast topper, an extra, and the spacers I've been looking for for half price. The guy came back so quickly I'm thinking I should've offered less!

Oh well. New from the Giant dealer the parts are $125-ish. I got what I was looking for and more for $20.

Next step: sell off the extras.

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:55 AM   #27157
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My first car cost me about $7800, brand new. I just can't see spending thousands more than that on a bicycle, no matter how nice it is.

and then what happens when you get it wrong and throw it down a rockly slope ? That's three times what my kdx cost new.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:10 AM   #27158
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That S works is beautiful, but I'm with you guys - no way. $2k I dropped last winter on my Reign made me ... until I rode it.


Can someone tell me what the big deal is with Thompson seatposts? Why are they much better (and much more expensive) than the one my bike came with? Not looking to buy one, just curious.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:32 AM   #27159
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That S works is beautiful, but I'm with you guys - no way. $2k I dropped last winter on my Reign made me ... until I rode it.


Can someone tell me what the big deal is with Thompson seatposts? Why are they much better (and much more expensive) than the one my bike came with? Not looking to buy one, just curious.
Thomson are real good quality, with a solid seat clamp. I have their stem and seatpost on my Fat. You don't want to go cheap on those 2 points of contact.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:37 AM   #27160
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Can someone tell me what the big deal is with Thompson seatposts? Why are they much better (and much more expensive) than the one my bike came with? Not looking to buy one, just curious.
Thomson machines their seatposts to very tight tolerances, they're light, and they work. They were also one of the first companies to popularize the 2 bolt jacking system (even though they ripped the idea off of Syncros). The problem with Syncros posts was that weren't milled out of 1 piece of stock, the heads were bonded and eventually broke off. At least for me.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:38 AM   #27161
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That S works is beautiful, but I'm with you guys - no way. $2k I dropped last winter on my Reign made me ... until I rode it.
The only way I could rationalize the purchase would be to sell all my other bikes, which combined might be worth tend grand. The S-works is SO good that it could easily fill all their roles. I actually started to think about that during the test ride, which is when I decided to return it before I did something crazy.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:54 AM   #27162
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Thomson machines their seatposts to very tight tolerances, they're light, and they work. They were also one of the first companies to popularize the 2 bolt jacking system (even though they ripped the idea off of Syncros). The problem with Syncros posts was that weren't milled out of 1 piece of stock, the heads were bonded and eventually broke off. At least for me.

My bike had the Syncros post and stem from new in '99. I had a lot of hours on them, and after reading about the breakage, decided to go with Thomson a couple of years ago.
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:28 PM   #27163
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Do these 'brain' equipped suspension systems require any extra maintenance? I wonder why other manufacturers haven't come up with something similar.
My buddy just experienced the joy of Specialized brain death. I'll let you know the $ damage.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:14 PM   #27164
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My bike had the Syncros post and stem from new in '99. I had a lot of hours on them, and after reading about the breakage, decided to go with Thomson a couple of years ago.
Humph. I've still got 1 on a bike and 2 backup Syncros posts. Never had issue one. (knocking on wood).

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Old 02-07-2013, 04:53 PM   #27165
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Do these 'brain' equipped suspension systems require any extra maintenance?
So far, ours haven't. My intent is to send them back to Fox, to have the services done.

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Can someone tell me what the big deal is with Thompson seatposts? Why are they much better (and much more expensive) than the one my bike came with? Not looking to buy one, just curious.
Thomson are made in the USA and built to aerospace standards, as that's their primary business.
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