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Old 04-09-2013, 01:04 PM   #28051
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(Not so) little guy I became friends with yesterday. I had stopped to check my rear tire due to it seeming to be loosing air. I looked up once done and here he is! Only about 5 feet away

What else is one to do but grab the camera/phone

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Old 04-09-2013, 01:07 PM   #28052
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Thinking about it, since I've been riding in cooler temps, I drink even less then I normally do. And, as I said, eating and drinking during the ride is already one of my weak points. It just seems kind of off the wall to get dehydrated when riding in the 20-40 degree range. I'll try to remember to force myself to drink, even if I don't really feel like it, and I'll see if that makes a difference.
If you're thirsty, it's too late. As a test, your urine should be almost clear. Lemonade color means drink more water and iced tea color definitely means drink more water.

I'm riding tonight and Thursday night, so I've been drinking water all day and have avoided alcohol. It makes you pee, which dehydrates you. Thursday night, after I get home, I'll have a brewski and will spend all day Friday getting hydrated again for Saturday's effort.

During a ride, I try to take a good mouthful of fluid about every 15 minutes. It makes it easier to eat, too. I have trouble getting some of the extruded foods like Clif or Powerbars down, so I like to cut up an orange and carry it in my jersey. At the top of a climb, it's nice to have a little heaven in the form of an orange slice. It makes getting some food and more fluid down easier.

Regardless of the outside temp, your body is sweating when you're working hard, even if it's not evident to you. Your gear is helping that sweat evaporate appropriately.

Cramps are the precursor to a full bonk and we all know that bonking sucks.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:27 PM   #28053
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If you're thirsty, it's too late. As a test, your urine should be almost clear. Lemonade color means drink more water and iced tea color definitely means drink more water.

I'm riding tonight and Thursday night, so I've been drinking water all day and have avoided alcohol. It makes you pee, which dehydrates you. Thursday night, after I get home, I'll have a brewski and will spend all day Friday getting hydrated again for Saturday's effort.

During a ride, I try to take a good mouthful of fluid about every 15 minutes. It makes it easier to eat, too. I have trouble getting some of the extruded foods like Clif or Powerbars down, so I like to cut up an orange and carry it in my jersey. At the top of a climb, it's nice to have a little heaven in the form of an orange slice. It makes getting some food and more fluid down easier.

Regardless of the outside temp, your body is sweating when you're working hard, even if it's not evident to you. Your gear is helping that sweat evaporate appropriately.

Cramps are the precursor to a full bonk and we all know that bonking sucks.
A small roll of Tums in your underseat bag can be a lifesaver if you or a riding buddy get a serious cramp. Just suck on one or two of them. The calcium will help the muscle unlock and make it easier to stretch out.

Preventing cramps through hydration and salt intake is definitely better than getting them in the first place, though.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:30 PM   #28054
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(Not so) little guy I became friends with yesterday. I had stopped to check my rear tire due to it seeming to be loosing air. I looked up once done and here he is! Only about 5 feet away

What else is one to do but grab the camera/phone

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Old 04-09-2013, 01:34 PM   #28055
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A small roll of Tums in your underseat bag can be a lifesaver if you or a riding buddy get a serious cramp. Just suck on one or two of them. The calcium will help the muscle unlock and make it easier to stretch out.
+ 1. Late in the day of a long ride, I'll usually chew on a couple as a preventative measure. Even the cheap ones at Costco are great.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:59 PM   #28056
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A small roll of Tums in your underseat bag can be a lifesaver if you or a riding buddy get a serious cramp. Just suck on one or two of them. The calcium will help the muscle unlock and make it easier to stretch out.

Preventing cramps through hydration and salt intake is definitely better than getting them in the first place, though.
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:44 PM   #28057
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A small roll of Tums in your underseat bag can be a lifesaver if you or a riding buddy get a serious cramp. Just suck on one or two of them. The calcium will help the muscle unlock and make it easier to stretch out.

Preventing cramps through hydration and salt intake is definitely better than getting them in the first place, though.
I thought cramp was due to lack of potassium (hence bananas are good for that) ?
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:34 PM   #28058
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A small roll of Tums in your underseat bag can be a lifesaver if you or a riding buddy get a serious cramp. Just suck on one or two of them. The calcium will help the muscle unlock and make it easier to stretch out.

Preventing cramps through hydration and salt intake is definitely better than getting them in the first place, though.
I'll bring some along when we attempt our century at the end of the month.

My problem is that I don't feel hungry or thirsty at all while I'm on the bike unless it's really hot out, so I put off drinking, and especially, eating until the last minute. Usually, by the time I eat, I have to choke it down because my mouth is pretty dry. I like Cytomax and usually bring a bottle of that as well as a bottle of plain water. Lately, in the cooler temps, they both come home barely touched...

Funny thing is that during a 45 minute spinning class I'll kill a large water bottle, but I'm a sweaty mess in those.
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:59 PM   #28059
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I thought cramp was due to lack of potassium (hence bananas are good for that) ?

Yes. And no.

http://www.medicinenet.com/muscle_cramps/page2.htm

Bananas are great as a preventative or for very mild cramping, but not so good when your buddy is writhing on the ground and can't straighten his hamstring.

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I'll bring some along when we attempt our century at the end of the month.

My problem is that I don't feel hungry or thirsty at all while I'm on the bike unless it's really hot out, so I put off drinking, and especially, eating until the last minute. Usually, by the time I eat, I have to choke it down because my mouth is pretty dry. I like Cytomax and usually bring a bottle of that as well as a bottle of plain water. Lately, in the cooler temps, they both come home barely touched...

Funny thing is that during a 45 minute spinning class I'll kill a large water bottle, but I'm a sweaty mess in those.
Seriously, you need to manage your water and your food. It'll only take one good bonk before you make a more conscious effort.

Short (under 35mi) rides, I usually just take one large bottle and no food or chews. 35-60mi I've got one large bottle of water, one large bottle with watered-down Accelerade, a LaraBar and a pack of Clif ShotBlox. (Orange with caffeine)

That all changes depending a terrain and weather, but it's my baseline for most rides.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:27 AM   #28060
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I thought cramp was due to lack of potassium (hence bananas are good for that) ?
A number of riders in my area have done several '42 mile Epic' rides at Santos, getting cramps each time. They claim that when a cramp does occur, the cure is to eat a packet of mustard. Don't know why it would work, but apparently a lot of riders know about it.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:09 AM   #28061
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A number of riders in my area have done several '42 mile Epic' rides at Santos, getting cramps each time. They claim that when a cramp does occur, the cure is to eat a packet of mustard. Don't know why it would work, but apparently a lot of riders know about it.
I've heard pickle juice works too but haven't needed to try any of them.



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Old 04-10-2013, 06:41 AM   #28062
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I'll bring some along when we attempt our century at the end of the month.

My problem is that I don't feel hungry or thirsty at all while I'm on the bike unless it's really hot out, so I put off drinking, and especially, eating until the last minute. Usually, by the time I eat, I have to choke it down because my mouth is pretty dry. I like Cytomax and usually bring a bottle of that as well as a bottle of plain water. Lately, in the cooler temps, they both come home barely touched...

Funny thing is that during a 45 minute spinning class I'll kill a large water bottle, but I'm a sweaty mess in those.
I was doubled over on the shoulder of the road in agony approximately 50 miles into my first century. It's in this thread somewhere. A nice lady stopped and gave me some Tums to get rid of the cramps. It worked and got me through the rest of the ride, even though it was not easy or fun. Gotta train yourself to eat and hydrate on the bike at regular intervals. If you remind yourself to have a sip every 8-12 minutes by glancing at the timer on your computer/Garmin, it makes it easier. Works for me.

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I finished the 3State 3Mountain Challenge century today in 6:25. The climbs were brutal, but the downhills were kickass. Experience honed during years of riding sportbikes helped while flying down the curvy bits. I found out quickly its almost impossible to quickly eat MetRX Colossal 100 bars while riding a bike. The first one made me choke almost to the point of suffocation. About 52 miles into the ride, during the second climb, I suffered massive leg cramps. Had to dismount. A woman (who was more prepared than me) stopped and gave me 2 TUMS, which allowed me to complete the climb and nurse leg cramps the rest of the day. The third climb was the worst with a 18-20% grade at the end. I gotta say the sag support (food stations) and logistics were excellent. The cops shut the roads down and let us through all of the intersections at full speed. At the end we all got a free sac of Krystal Burgers and two free beers. Overall, a great experience.
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:11 AM   #28063
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I was doubled over on the shoulder of the road in agony approximately 50 miles into my first century. It's in this thread somewhere. A nice lady stopped and gave me some Tums to get rid of the cramps. It worked and got me through the rest of the ride, even though it was not easy or fun. Gotta train yourself to eat and hydrate on the bike at regular intervals. If you remind yourself to have a sip every 8-12 minutes by glancing at the timer on your computer/Garmin, it makes it easier. Works for me.

edit: found the old post from 2010
We just got another inch or so of white crap overnight so no riding today. I definitely need to focus on the eating and drinking part of the ride, though.

Trading cramp stories, a few years ago, my calf knotted up so bad it looked like a golf ball was under the skin. I blamed that one on some RedBull I had drank at work before the ride...I wasn't in the middle of a century, at least.
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:16 AM   #28064
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So the chain problem on my e bike is still there but I'm not worried about that, I just took it off and tried to put the thing together and it is missing some bits from shipping, if they can't find them (it has been months now so I wouldn't be shocked) any idea where to get the following at a good price:

I have the front wheel but not the quick release parts.

I need pedals.

And a kickstand like this one:



I hope it's not a custom job....
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:46 AM   #28065
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So the chain problem on my e bike is still there but I'm not worried about that, I just took it off and tried to put the thing together and it is missing some bits from shipping, if they can't find them (it has been months now so I wouldn't be shocked) any idea where to get the following at a good price:

I have the front wheel but not the quick release parts.

I need pedals.

And a kickstand like this one:



I hope it's not a custom job....
Any LBS with a J&B account should be able to get you one of those kickstands.

AFA QRs: that same LBS *should* have a stash of em in the back that are at least semi-used. If you want a little more security for parking the bike in a public spot, get a 'bolt-on QR.' You can get em with a 5mm allen bolt in place of the lever. Keeps casual thieves at bay 'cause you're bike is a bigger PITA than the one next to it.

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