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Old 05-27-2013, 08:11 PM   #28906
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Had a nice ride in the rain today after over a week off the bike due to work encroaching on ride time. Afterward, I found that there are a few lessons I apparently have to learn over and over again:

1) DON'T TAKE A WEEK OFF, DAMMIT!!! Work late? Tired? When you get home grab a quick nap, eat a PB&J and tell the wife not to hold up dinner for you. THEN GO GET ON THE BIKE, STUPID!

2) So long as it's not coming down in buckets or making lightning like one of Nikola Tesla's wet dreams, riding in the rain can be a pleasant and relaxing experience.

3) Fenders. Get some.

4) Unless there is no other route available, never, EVER, try to ride across a bridge with a glass deck in the wet. I imagine my plight provided some comic relief for that Indian tourist group.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:00 PM   #28907
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I'm not big on souvenirs or hanging personal mementoes on the wall but the jersey from the Stampede is so nice, I thought it'd be a nice one to have framed.

Prior to the event, at the rider's meeting, the organizer mentioned that he had an extra one for sale and he'd make someone a good deal. When I got home, I regretted not buying it from him but a few emails later, it was on it's way to Phoenix.

When I checked framing prices, I wasn't too shocked to find the going rate to have a jersey framed was $300-$500. No way - I decided to give it a shot myself.

I purchased from mounting boards from Michaels - invested an hour or two this afternoon and here's the results:



I may try to get one or two of the remaining wrinkles out - but for now, I'll leave it alone. The framing material was ordered this afternoon and I'll watch for a local sale on the mats and glass to finish it up.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:05 PM   #28908
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If its sit bone issues, the only thing that fixes that is time in the saddle. Keep riding it till it don't hurt.

Now if you're talking taint pain, that's another story

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Crazy thing happened to me. I got a cyclocross bike after being off the bike for many years.
My back bugs me so I went with the newer idea of a higher bar. I used to ride all the time with a high seat and low bar early 90s mtn bike.
Anyway my ass could never get comfortable. Different seats different seat post heights I just could never push through the pain and stopped riding. Until I got a used mtn bike from a buddy. This bike was set up in the old school high seat low bars. No high rise bars. And straight away I could ride much much further. While I still had pain on the soft tissue between my sit bones and the seat it was no where near as bad as before. And it was the kind of pain that feels like it'll go away with some miles in the

While i know that bike fit critical it surprised me that the handlebar height would play such a big roll in seat comfort.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:28 AM   #28909
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While i know that bike fit critical it surprised me that the handlebar height would play such a big roll in seat comfort.
Have a look at this diagram of the human pelvis.



Notice how the shape of the sit bones varies quite a bit along their outer edge. Lower handlebars tilt the pelvis forward, whereas higher handlebars roll the pelvis to the rear. If your handlebar height causes you to place more of your weight on the sharper curves of the ischium, you'll naturally experience greater discomfort than if you were to sit on the flatter portions.

One of the fitters at a local bike store tells me that some riders prefer putting most of their weight on the pubis rather than the ischium, which changes everything with respect to the kind of seat they'd be most comfortable on. He suggests that a likely reason why only the Adamo seat seems to work for me is because the distance between my pelvic bones in the pubic region may be greater than it is for most people, which results in a better fit with the Adamo's wider two-pronged nose.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:01 AM   #28910
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Have a look at this diagram of the human pelvis.



Notice how the shape of the sit bones varies quite a bit along their outer edge. Lower handlebars tilt the pelvis forward, whereas higher handlebars roll the pelvis to the rear. If your handlebar height causes you to place more of your weight on the sharper curves of the ischium, you'll naturally experience greater discomfort than if you were to sit on the flatter portions.

One of the fitters at a local bike store tells me that some riders prefer putting most of their weight on the pubis rather than the ischium, which changes everything with respect to the kind of seat they'd be most comfortable on. He suggests that a likely reason why only the Adamo seat seems to work for me is because the distance between my pelvic bones in the pubic region may be greater than it is for most people, which results in a better fit with the Adamo's wider two-pronged nose.
I think your fitter dood is on the right track, but off some. Pressure on the taint can be the result of a long, low position on the bike. Seat scans from the major manufacturers show just what you're saying in that first bit: more upright = more pressure on the sit bones. Lower and longer = more pressure on your taint.

OR

Taint pressure is a sign of ' your seat's too high.' Pain and numbness are a classic sign that you need to lower your seat.

Putting pressure on the taint ain't good. Yeah, it happens, but its not the best bet for comfort, etc.

The lower you are, the more you're going to use the muscles in your butt to take up part of the load of pedaling. The more upright, the more you're going to use your thighs and the butt muscles stay quiet.


You need to find a happy medium.

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Old 05-28-2013, 06:30 AM   #28911
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:48 AM   #28912
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:55 AM   #28913
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the distance between my pelvic bones in the pubic region may be greater than it is for most people, which results in a better fit with the Adamo's wider two-pronged nose.
Have you tried a womens saddle?
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:01 AM   #28914
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I think your fitter dood is on the right track, but off some. Pressure on the taint can be the result of a long, low position on the bike. Seat scans from the major manufacturers show just what you're saying in that first bit: more upright = more pressure on the sit bones. Lower and longer = more pressure on your taint.

OR

Taint pressure is a sign of ' your seat's too high.' Pain and numbness are a classic sign that you need to lower your seat.

Putting pressure on the taint ain't good. Yeah, it happens, but its not the best bet for comfort, etc.
What is this 'taint' you're referring to?

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The lower you are, the more you're going to use the muscles in your butt to take up part of the load of pedaling. The more upright, the more you're going to use your thighs and the butt muscles stay quiet.
Absolutely. A book on kinesiology I used during my weight lifting days contains a graph showing how the bulk of the work done by the hip and thigh muscles shifts gradually from the quads to the glutes and hamstrings, the deeper you go in the squat. Oddly enough, sitting on a road bike with your hands in the drops places your legs at their worst possible angle for leverage. It also means that the powerful quadriceps muscles are contributing very little to each pedal stroke. The frame geometry of a conventional bicycle dictates that, but I wonder how much more efficiently the legs could operate on a recumbent whose design maximized the leverage of the rider's legs.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:29 AM   #28915
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Have you tried a womens saddle?
For me, they're too short front-to-rear.

And, that Adamo is a plank. I tried one. My GF rides one on her tri bike, but, has a normal Specialized saddle on her mileage bike.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:40 AM   #28916
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Have you tried a womens saddle?
Yes, but only for a short while. The tech who put together my road bike mistakenly put on a women's saddle. Nobody noticed it until I came back complaining of extreme discomfort. It was horrible. Probably the worst of all the saddles I've tried.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:48 AM   #28917
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For me, they're too short front-to-rear.

And, that Adamo is a plank. I tried one.
I'm not convinced the tiny difference in padding between one seat and another has much to do with comfort, at least for me. The first time I sat on a Corbin saddle, it felt as hard as a rock. I couldn't understand how anyone could claim they were more comfortable than the stock seats -- until I rode a long distance on one. The manager of a local Trek shop has a seat made entirely out of carbon fiber. No padding on it at all. I'd like to try one, just to see whether seat hardness is really a factor in my comfort level. I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:54 AM   #28918
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What is this 'taint' you're referring to?
'taint this (scrotum) and 'taint that (anus). It would be the perineum.

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I'm not convinced the tiny difference in padding between one seat and another has much to do with comfort, at least for me. The first time I sat on a Corbin saddle, it felt as hard as a rock. I couldn't understand how anyone could claim they were more comfortable than the stock seats -- until I rode a long distance on one. The manager of a local Trek shop has a seat made entirely out of carbon fiber. No padding on it at all. I'd like to try one, just to see whether seat hardness is really a factor in my comfort level. I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.
The Adamo, for me, is about the shape. It's like a hewn 2X4.
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'taint this (scrotum) and 'taint that (anus). It would be the perineum.
That's a relief. For a moment there I was concerned that a part of my anatomy might be missing.

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The fitter did mention that the only complaints he'd ever had about the Adamo were that it was too wide in front. Probably not enough thigh clearance for some people.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:06 AM   #28920
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'taint this (scrotum) and 'taint that (anus). It would be the perineum.
Or, if you happen to be a devotee of BikesnobNYC, the scranus.
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