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Old 10-29-2013, 08:36 AM   #31681
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Trainers:

It's getting cold and there's hardly any daylight outside the workday anymore.

What's the story with trainers?
Seems like a decent one can be had for $60.
Any words of advice, features to look for?
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:05 AM   #31682
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Trainers:

It's getting cold and there's hardly any daylight outside the workday anymore.

What's the story with trainers?
Seems like a decent one can be had for $60.
Any words of advice, features to look for?
$60? Unless its used, it's probably junk. Good quality trainers are $200 and over. The least expensive ones use magnets to provide resistance, whereas the more expensive systems are hydraulic. The hydraulic variety run much quieter, but some of them can develop leaks. The Kurt Kinetic fluid trainer has a unique design which completely prevents leakage, and it seems to consistently rate at the top in product reviews. At $350, it's a bit pricey though. There's also another downside to fluid trainers, and that is that none that I've seen so far allow the user to increase or decrease the level of resistance during steady pedaling. They all seem designed to vary the resistance according to wheel speed: faster speed = more resistance. Magnetic trainers like the ones made by CycleOps allow you to increase or decrease resistance by means of a lever which clips onto your handlebars and connects to the unit via a cable. This is the one I have:



These don't leak or require any maintenance, but they are a bit noisy.

There is another type of trainer that uses a fan to create resistance, but they're the most noisy of all of them, and product reviews generally place them at the bottom. I've never seen these sold anywhere.

At the very top of the line are computer operated interactive trainers which use sophisticated computer graphics as training aids, but these are by far the most expensive, costing around $1600 to $1800, depending on the model.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:04 AM   #31683
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Regarding trainers:

You'll want a fan of some sort in your face to keep you cool since there's no apparent wind.

Put something on the floor (and possibly on your bike) to catch your sweat.

Don't use a pricey tire on the rear when your bike is on the trainer. Trainers eat tires.
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:44 PM   #31684
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Trainers:

It's getting cold and there's hardly any daylight outside the workday anymore.

What's the story with trainers?
Seems like a decent one can be had for $60.
Any words of advice, features to look for?
Take the trainer money and buy some winter gear. Trainers suck, I'm already dreading ever using mine this year
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:47 PM   #31685
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here's also another downside to fluid trainers, and that is that none that I've seen so far allow the user to increase or decrease the level of resistance during steady pedaling. They all seem designed to vary the resistance according to wheel speed: faster speed = more resistance.
All you have to do is shift....
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:38 PM   #31686
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Take the trainer money and buy some winter gear. Trainers suck, I'm already dreading ever using mine this year
+1

I'm already at half my trainer ride total from last year (2). It was ~50deg and rainy that day. I'm fixin to start doing 4 10s at work, so probably am gonna have a shit-ton of time on one of my two trainers by the end of the winter.

Misery loves company. If you can goat rope a few buddies to ride with you, it helps. Ditto with having a workout/goal for the trainer ride. JRA on a trainer? No effing thanks!

I got out tonite for a 1:15 ride up and down the W&OD trail. Went out 30-some min and back for the rest. Didya know its DARK out there? At one point, a deer was paralleling me. Kept running straight down the horse trail next to the main trail. Kept just in front of me. I was waiting for it to turn 90deg to its right and head into my path. Stoopit deer.

Ordered an Ogio Endurance 9.0 bag to replace the black Specialized bag I've been using since the mid-90s. I'm tired of trying to find black warmers, black shorts, black jerseys, etc inside a black bag.

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Old 10-29-2013, 06:55 PM   #31687
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Got a flat front 6 miles from home today. Was heading up a short and easy bump when the front end went all squishy. Opened the saddlepack and pulled out the spare tube. This happened to be the one I bought the day before the century in May when I was desperated and all the LBS had in stock was latex Challenge tubes. Uh oh. Installed it on the rim and noticed immediately that it was tight. Worked out all the kinks and put the Co2 inflator on it. BAM! Instant explosion. There goes $20 down the drain... and my way home. I walked across the street to a dog grooming business and explained my situation. The owner was between dog washings but claimed she couldn't leave, so I started hoofing it home. Half a mile up the road she pulls up next to me in her truck and tells me to put the bike in the back. She wouldn't even take any cash when we pulled into my driveway. And that's what I like about the south.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:13 PM   #31688
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Layering

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Old 10-29-2013, 07:21 PM   #31689
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I walked across the street to a dog grooming business and explained my situation. The owner was between dog washings but claimed she couldn't leave, so I started hoofing it home. Half a mile up the road she pulls up next to me in her truck and tells me to put the bike in the back. She wouldn't even take any cash when we pulled into my driveway. And that's what I like about the south.
I'm keeping my mouth shut, on this one.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:18 AM   #31690
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All you have to do is shift....
I said "during steady pedaling". When you shift to a higher gear, your pedaling cadence drops. Putting more power into each pedal stroke gets your cadence back to where it was, but that method doesn't allow you to select the amount of resistance: it will be whatever the design perameters of the trainer allows. You won't, for example, be able to set the resistance to 240 Watts at 90 rpm. The only trainers which provide that degree of control are those equipped with a mechanical device to select the amount of resistance, or by using a computer.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:18 PM   #31691
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I said "during steady pedaling". When you shift to a higher gear, your pedaling cadence drops. Putting more power into each pedal stroke gets your cadence back to where it was, but that method doesn't allow you to select the amount of resistance: it will be whatever the design perameters of the trainer allows. You won't, for example, be able to set the resistance to 240 Watts at 90 rpm. The only trainers which provide that degree of control are those equipped with a mechanical device to select the amount of resistance, or by using a computer.
Ah, I see. You are looking for alot more than I was.....
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:19 PM   #31692
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Does anyone have any suggestions for shoe covers for riding around freezing. Not quite cold enough for neoprene socks.....
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:48 PM   #31693
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Does anyone have any suggestions for shoe covers for riding around freezing. Not quite cold enough for neoprene socks.....
I really like my Craft booties. They have a zippered upper and a Velcro sole strap, so it's easy to get them on/off. Also, they allow the sole of your shoe to be used, as opposed to the fully concealed booties like the PI ones I had. I busted my ass more than once in those.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:56 PM   #31694
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Does anyone have any suggestions for shoe covers for riding around freezing. Not quite cold enough for neoprene socks.....
I stick plastic bags between two pairs of socks, but i'm cheap & have no dignity.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:50 AM   #31695
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Last week, while riding to work, my cyclometer went crazy and was registering speeds all over the place, going from 35 mph, to 12 mph, to 1.5 mph to 20 mph and so on. I stopped to try to fix it, but after some futzing it just stopped registering speed completely. So on the weekend I futzed with it more and got it to work properly.

The punchline: The cyclometer now shows my "Max speed" as 65 mph. So TAKE THAT, those of you that think a recumbent can't go fast!
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