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Old 08-19-2009, 12:20 PM   #12016
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Been there, done that. But, like I said, the current bikes I'm looking at have weird geometry with things like curved and angled top tubes, and are intentionally made to not conform with what would be considered "normal" top tube to seat tube ratios and whatnot. The bike I'm riding now has a 61cm top tube. The model I'm considering has a 55cm top tube. They are both listed as being size large. You have to take in to account seat tube/head tube angles, head tube height, length from BB to head tube, etc.
I may end up with just having to choose from what I can actually get a test ride on from the LBS and rule out those that aren't sold locally.

You need to know the "effective top tube" measurement. All bikes regardless of tt slope should be measured horizontal to the ground from the center of the head tube to the center of the seat tube to get the tt measurement. This pretty much equalizes different frame designs. Seat tube angles make minor differences, but usually only vary a 1/2 a degree or so. Unless your super retentive you probably won't notice the difference that will make. Check and see how the tt measurements you are being given are arrived at.
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Old 08-19-2009, 03:53 PM   #12017
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:43 PM   #12018
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Been there, done that. But, like I said, the current bikes I'm looking at have weird geometry with things like curved and angled top tubes, and are intentionally made to not conform with what would be considered "normal" top tube to seat tube ratios and whatnot. The bike I'm riding now has a 61cm top tube. The model I'm considering has a 55cm top tube. They are both listed as being size large. You have to take in to account seat tube/head tube angles, head tube height, length from BB to head tube, etc.
I may end up with just having to choose from what I can actually get a test ride on from the LBS and rule out those that aren't sold locally.
If you're riding a 61cm TT now, you're definitely an XL in the look 566.

Look here (no pun intended)

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Old 08-19-2009, 08:53 PM   #12019
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We're in a lease till Dec. IF I'm makin $$, we're here till Spring-ish. Then we're prolly headed back to Denver for a long time.

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ahhhh geeeeeez

Back here?


Really?

I just got the stains out of the carpet.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:07 PM   #12020
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ahhhh geeeeeez

Back here?


Really?

I just got the stains out of the carpet.
Fuck you asshole! I don't recall being invited to yer home.

See if I ask you to help me move a bike again!



Seriously. We're not likin Tucson. Some of it (most of it) is the hash here sucks misery goats. Makes dealing with the heat harder if you don't like the folks you hang (hung!) out with.

I DO like the fact that you go 20-30 min out of the city in pretty much any direction and yer in outer BFE. I DON'T like the fact that everthing in said outer BFE has stickers or sharp shit stickin out of it!

As soon as I can find something makin $3k/mo I'm outta here.

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Old 08-19-2009, 10:55 PM   #12021
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Fuck you asshole! I don't recall being invited to yer home.

See if I ask you to help me move a bike again!



Seriously. We're not likin Tucson. Some of it (most of it) is the hash here sucks misery goats. Makes dealing with the heat harder if you don't like the folks you hang (hung!) out with.

I DO like the fact that you go 20-30 min out of the city in pretty much any direction and yer in outer BFE. I DON'T like the fact that everthing in said outer BFE has stickers or sharp shit stickin out of it!

As soon as I can find something makin $3k/mo I'm outta here.

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Old 08-19-2009, 11:49 PM   #12022
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Flagstaff!
BTDT

Stick doesn't really like the hospital there. For me, there's not a lot of opportunities.

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Old 08-20-2009, 08:57 AM   #12023
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BTDT

Stick doesn't really like the hospital there. For me, there's not a lot of opportunities.

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Ah. Bummer. Seems like a grand place to be a cyclist.

Maybe behind Moab and a few other places...

Other than Flagstaff, Arizona sucks.
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:55 AM   #12024
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Ah. Bummer. Seems like a grand place to be a cyclist.

Maybe behind Moab and a few other places...

Other than Flagstaff, Arizona sucks.
Depends. For a mtn biker, sure, Flag is great. Not so bueno if yer a roadie () There's only a few roads in an out of town and they're usually clogged with RVs and tourists looking around *and not at you!*

I was riding my cross bike lots. Lots of fire roads.

Bisbee is OK. WAY southern AZ isn't nearly as hot as the rest of the state.

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Old 08-20-2009, 11:50 AM   #12025
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Depends. For a mtn biker, sure, Flag is great. Not so bueno if yer a roadie () There's only a few roads in an out of town and they're usually clogged with RVs and tourists looking around *and not at you!*

I was riding my cross bike lots. Lots of fire roads.

Bisbee is OK. WAY southern AZ isn't nearly as hot as the rest of the state.

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Hmmm. Way south, eh?

Interesting they placed all that soulless shit like Phoenix and Scottsdale mid-state. Shields all those southerns from us traveling northerns. When we hit midstate mall culture, we generally head east to New Mexico where they've at least got good food.
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:27 PM   #12026
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Hmmm. Way south, eh?

Interesting they placed all that soulless shit like Phoenix and Scottsdale mid-state. Shields all those southerns from us traveling northerns. When we hit midstate mall culture, we generally head east to New Mexico where they've at least got good food.
I'm not sure WhyTF they put the capitol, etc there. Too farging hot. No farging water. Etc.

Flag is MUCH nicer weather-wise. So's Sierra Vista and its environs.

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Old 08-20-2009, 06:41 PM   #12027
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I'm not sure WhyTF they put the capitol, etc there.
the railroad.

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Old 08-20-2009, 06:51 PM   #12028
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Could be.

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Old 08-20-2009, 08:11 PM   #12029
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:14 PM   #12030
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Hey guys, been awhile since I have visited this thread.

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with this Sette Razzo 29er Frame and dealing with price point?

Thinking about going geared 29er after having my monocog 29er for the past 3 years.
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