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Old 07-12-2006, 08:38 PM   #1
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easier tire changes - milling stock rims or replacing?

I've heard that changing tires is real diificult on the 950. Any recommended upgrades to ease the process? I've heard of milling the stock rim or replacing with aftermarket rims.
Also is it needed on front and/or rear, or is one easy enough that no change is necessary.
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:12 AM   #2
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The tires on the 950 are no harder to change than any other stuff walled off road tire on any other bike, they are not easy. If you have not done this in the past get someone to show you how and have the correct tools. It is something you should know how it do, and practice will give you the confidence to perform the task in the field, should the need arise.

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Old 07-13-2006, 10:23 AM   #3
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i think a narrower sun or excel rear is way easier than trying with the stocker
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:23 PM   #4
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The tires on the 950 are no harder to change than any other stuff walled off road tire on any other bike, they are not easy. If you have not done this in the past get someone to show you how and have the correct tools. It is something you should know how it do, and practice will give you the confidence to perform the task in the field, should the need arise.

Good Luck.
+1

There are many reasons to change rims, facilitating tire change is low on that list. I've broken bead on 950 rear tire rear tire using the famous kickstand method many times--always solo. It works like a charm.

"I've heard", or "I've read", are both great, but no replacement for experience. I'd definitely have a go at it before dropping many hundred dollars on a solution YOU may not need.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:44 PM   #5
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I'm in my 100 degree garage, swapping out the TKC's for the Scorps for some road ridin'. As I stand there catching my breath and cleaning the sweat off my glasses, it occurs to me that when the time comes and I do this in the dirt and rocks by the side of the road I'm gonna be risking some damage to the hubs and discs while wrestling with these monsters.

In the garage I'm kepping the hub ends and discs off the floor with some short pieces of 2x4. Anybody have recommendations for keeping the fragile bits from becoming to dinged up while on the side of the road?

Btw, the sidestand bead-breaking method works.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:21 PM   #6
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the sidestand bead-breaking method works.
I have a really, really stupid question: how do you put the bike on the sidestand with the rear wheel off? Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't visualize this technique.
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Old 07-13-2006, 05:30 PM   #7
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Put on centerstand

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I have a really, really stupid question: how do you put the bike on the sidestand with the rear wheel off? Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't visualize this technique.
You put the bike on the centerstand first then remove the wheel. Lay the wheel on the ground, deploy sidestand, carefully lean the bike so sidestand breaks the bead (don't forget remove the valve first). Do a search, there is a thread w/ photo's in the Orange Crush forum.
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Old 07-13-2006, 05:56 PM   #8
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i've added stuff on bead breaking to the links thread that is the first thread on this forum.
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Old 07-13-2006, 06:24 PM   #9
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You put the bike on the centerstand first then remove the wheel. Lay the wheel on the ground, deploy sidestand, carefully lean the bike so sidestand breaks the bead (don't forget remove the valve first). Do a search, there is a thread w/ photo's in the Orange Crush forum.
Got it. Thanks. I've read various references to this technique before but I've never seen an explanation or photo.
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Old 07-13-2006, 06:43 PM   #10
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Anybody have recommendations for keeping the fragile bits from becoming to dinged up while on the side of the road?
Maybe a smaller diameter inner tube dedicated to the task? Try one an inch smaller than the wheel diameter. A tube will blow up pretty big without a tire around it. That should be enough clearance for the rotors and such.

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Old 07-13-2006, 10:36 PM   #11
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Instead of fucking around with the sidestand, it's a tube tire ffs. All you have to do is either ride the bike or walk beside it while in first gear. The bead will break.

You guys never own dirt bikes before or what?
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:58 PM   #12
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Instead of fucking around with the sidestand, it's a tube tire ffs. All you have to do is either ride the bike or walk beside it while in first gear. The bead will break.

You guys never own dirt bikes before or what?
nice one fred, you might own a dirt bike but you clearly don't own a 9x0.

The bead is one mother to break - I've ridden 30 miles fully laden with a flat rear at up to 40mph and it still didn't break the bead, spin the tyre etc etc

First gear walking beside it eh? I want photos!!!!
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Old 07-13-2006, 11:31 PM   #13
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Instead of fucking around with the sidestand, it's a tube tire ffs. All you have to do is either ride the bike or walk beside it while in first gear. The bead will break.

You guys never own dirt bikes before or what?
Where's that can of WD40 you borrowed off me 5 years ago? And I want my Butler back as well!
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Old 07-14-2006, 01:51 AM   #14
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He may have a point but the speed needs to be up, I did 70 in the wet on the motorway on a flat reat tyre on a 640 and it broke the bead no problem.
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Old 07-14-2006, 06:56 AM   #15
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The bead is one mother to break - I've ridden 30 miles fully laden with a flat rear at up to 40mph and it still didn't break the bead, spin the tyre etc etc
So... Given that it's so damn hard to break the bead on these things, does removing that extra, bead supporting, ridge on the rim make it easier?
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