1200 Adv winglets on 12GS - Page 6

mrmaico · 08-12-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Emoto

I finally got around to mounting mine a few minutes ago. No drama. Key bit of info for anyone contemplating this who orders the BMW bolts for mounting is that you'll need nuts for them. What you want is self locking (nylon insert) nuts in the pitch and size:

.8 x 5mm

Still need to take a test ride, but AMA Superbike racing is coming on the idiot box in half an hour, so that will have to wait...

So, did you make it out for that test ride yet Emoto? Whaddya think?

Barry

Jeff49783 · 08-19-2006, 09:23 PM

After reading all of the rants and raves, and binning both a CB screen and a Givi screen, I installed the winglets today.

A short test (20 mi) with the stock screen in all positions resulted in much smoother/quieter air at speeds up to 90. The buffeting is gone! The screen actually worked as it was probably intended, the lower you place it the more air you get. I'll try it w/ the Givi when it cools off in a few months.

Good bang for the buck, I'm pleased. Thanks for posting this stuff, gents.

jpalamar · 08-24-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmaico

Thanks Karl.

06327657966 screw .80 x 4
46612308594 washer .80 x 4
46637664846 bushing $1.60 x 4
46637694399 left wing $17.20
46637694400 right wing $17.20

Those are Chicago BMW prices. Took a few weeks for them to get them in.

You definitely want to get the hardware so they are spaced to sit off your bodywork a bit.

I figured if I didn't like them for whatever reason and took them off I will just find some small black rubber plugs to fill the holes but I don't see that happening now.

Barry

Just got mine today and thanks for your part numbers; I have a minor concern. I was going to mount them with fender washers and nylok nuts but then started to think a bit. I am not a great fan of wellnuts, but thinking that wellnuts might absorb some impact should you inadvertantly hit one/bang it. Nahhhh, probably over-engineering the thing.

Anyone notice how they are mounted on the GSA?

mrmaico · 08-24-2006, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpalamar

Just got mine today and thanks for your part numbers; I have a minor concern. I was going to mount them with fender washers and nylok nuts but then started to think a bit. I am not a great fan of wellnuts, but thinking that wellnuts might absorb some impact should you inadvertantly hit one/bang it. Nahhhh, probably over-engineering the thing.

Anyone notice how they are mounted on the GSA?

Interesting, can't say I've ever seen a wellnut before. Might not be a bad idea but I don't know if it would really make a difference or not.
http://www.emhart.com/products/pop/wellnut.asp

Here's what the GSA mount looks like. Don't be fooled by the color, it's a repaint.

Barry

Emoto · 08-24-2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaico

So, did you make it out for that test ride yet Emoto? Whaddya think?

Barry

Yes, I did finally get a chance to take a weekend ride up to VT to go camping, and that was my first ride after mounting the winglets. I would say that the winglets quieted things down a bit. Not a HUGE difference for me, but a nice one nonetheless. I think it is a worthwhile mod to make. Of course, it had been a week since I had ridden, so perhaps I would have noticed more of a change had I ridden back-to-back with and without them.

I will be interested in how differently (if at all) rain is deflected with them in place.

mattmor · 08-24-2006, 01:58 PM

It seems pretty self explanitory how to mount them. But how is everyone positioning them on the fender. Are you lining up the inside edge or outside? Hope you can explain a little.

Also what did you do for install. Use a really small drill bit and move up? Or just one shot? I don't wanna crack the panel or anything. Did you tape the panel first?

Matt

jpalamar · 08-24-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaico

Interesting, can't say I've ever seen a wellnut before. Might not be a bad idea but I don't know if it would really make a difference or not.
http://www.emhart.com/products/pop/wellnut.asp

Here's what the GSA mount looks like. Don't be fooled by the color, it's a repaint.

Barry

My only thought for using the wellnut is so that the mount is a bit 'softer'. I'm nut a great fan of them but BMW does use them quite a bit on their cycles. Hopefully, using a wellnut would dramatically lessen the probability (I think) of a hard bang into the winglet and cracking the tupperware. The wellnut, appropriately torqued/tightened could preclude that. But then again, what would have been perhaps a 4-5 mm hole, the wellnut is a lot bigger. Probably take my chances without the wellnut.

Thanks

rideLD · 08-24-2006, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmor

It seems pretty self explanitory how to mount them. But how is everyone positioning them on the fender. Are you lining up the inside edge or outside? Hope you can explain a little.

Also what did you do for install. Use a really small drill bit and move up? Or just one shot? I don't wanna crack the panel or anything. Did you tape the panel first?

Matt

Just slap them on and see where they look good and dont interfere with the motion of the windscreen adjustment. Keep in mind the further they hang off towards the outside of the bike, the more good they will do. There is a stamp under the fairing where the accessory socket hole would be if you don't have one. Make sure the cutout lines up with the stamp. Its really very easy. Measure twice, drill once.

For drilling I always use a stepped drill bit when drilling plastic. They work best.

BTW, I used the BMW tab nuts just like the ones in the picture of the adventure.

Jeff49783 · 08-25-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmor

It seems pretty self explanitory how to mount them. But how is everyone positioning them on the fender. Are you lining up the inside edge or outside? Hope you can explain a little.

Also what did you do for install. Use a really small drill bit and move up? Or just one shot? I don't wanna crack the panel or anything. Did you tape the panel first?

Matt

I ran a small pilot hole first, after measuring twice, of course.

Julio_Babucha · 08-31-2006, 01:51 PM

Just great

2.200 kms thru Spain in one week, and les noise, less wind, less stress, and a bit more heat....

from South of Europe...

Schwarz Baron · 08-31-2006, 02:29 PM

Hate to rain on your parade guys, but there is a minor piece of frame work, welded to the ADV frame,I guess its there for a good reason, ie, flexing...just be careful, some guys at home here are having problems with the screen flexing and cracking around the upper mounts on the sub frame, so anythings possible. I have attached a small pic of my underside of the beak to let you see..

just be careful..

GB · 08-31-2006, 02:31 PM

I think if you go back a few pages on this thread, you will see what some have done to adapt the winglets to the GS without the reinforcement tab and to compensate for the lack of support from the frame side.

Has anyone's winglet mounts cracked due to wind pressure on a GS?

mrmaico · 08-31-2006, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadget Boy

I think if you go back a few pages on this thread, you will see what some have done to adapt the winglets to the GS without the reinforcement tab and to compensate for the lack of support from the frame side.

Has anyone's winglet mounts cracked due to wind pressure on a GS?

No problems with mine, but to be honest, since I installed them I haven't ridden in any really heavy duty winds that I can recall.

Barry

rick danger · 08-31-2006, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmor

It seems pretty self explanitory how to mount them. But how is everyone positioning them on the fender. Are you lining up the inside edge or outside? Hope you can explain a little.

Also what did you do for install. Use a really small drill bit and move up? Or just one shot? I don't wanna crack the panel or anything. Did you tape the panel first?

Matt

Bradpoint bits work good

Schwarz Baron · 09-01-2006, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadget Boy

I think if you go back a few pages on this thread, you will see what some have done to adapt the winglets to the GS without the reinforcement tab and to compensate for the lack of support from the frame side.

Has anyone's winglet mounts cracked due to wind pressure on a GS?

I did read the whole lot, just thought it was worth mentioning, and giving a word of caution....

08-19-2006, 09:23 PM	#77
Jeff49783 Private ASEL Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, MI Oddometer: 167	Installed Today After reading all of the rants and raves, and binning both a CB screen and a Givi screen, I installed the winglets today. A short test (20 mi) with the stock screen in all positions resulted in much smoother/quieter air at speeds up to 90. The buffeting is gone! The screen actually worked as it was probably intended, the lower you place it the more air you get. I'll try it w/ the Givi when it cools off in a few months. Good bang for the buck, I'm pleased. Thanks for posting this stuff, gents. __________________ Jeff gone - 2008 Bandit 1250 ABS, 2006 XT225, 1995 K75RT, 2005 F650GS, 2005 R1200GS, 2003 R1150RT, 2001 R1100RS

08-24-2006, 01:58 PM	#81
mattmor Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Hamburg, PA Oddometer: 266	winglet mounting... It seems pretty self explanitory how to mount them. But how is everyone positioning them on the fender. Are you lining up the inside edge or outside? Hope you can explain a little. Also what did you do for install. Use a really small drill bit and move up? Or just one shot? I don't wanna crack the panel or anything. Did you tape the panel first? Matt __________________ Matt Morrison Lenhartsville, PA 07 BMW K1200GT

08-31-2006, 01:51 PM	#85
Julio_Babucha Happy to ride my GS Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Malaga, Spain. Oddometer: 72	Just great 2.200 kms thru Spain in one week, and les noise, less wind, less stress, and a bit more heat.... from South of Europe... __________________ GS1200 '04 www.gstrail.es

08-31-2006, 02:29 PM	#86
Schwarz Baron Mitglied mir, Nicht mir Joined: May 2006 Location: N.Ireland Oddometer: 102	Hate to rain on your parade guys, but there is a minor piece of frame work, welded to the ADV frame,I guess its there for a good reason, ie, flexing...just be careful, some guys at home here are having problems with the screen flexing and cracking around the upper mounts on the sub frame, so anythings possible. I have attached a small pic of my underside of the beak to let you see.. just be careful.. __________________ The Baron Please don't be offended by me MY PICS BLOG Quote Nachtflug 'Yes even on a cloudy day I think this bike deserves a nod. Not quite a hot bitch but Schwarz Baron looks to be a mans man. A GS riding man. A real cowboy. Nice job schwarzy. Have a cold one on me.' + 3 Naomi's awarded, not a hot bitch in sight

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08-31-2006, 02:31 PM	#87
GB Mod Squad Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Oddometer: 53,444	I think if you go back a few pages on this thread, you will see what some have done to adapt the winglets to the GS without the reinforcement tab and to compensate for the lack of support from the frame side. Has anyone's winglet mounts cracked due to wind pressure on a GS?