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Old 12-04-2006, 06:54 PM   #121
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Yeah for sure on the cee baily trim thing. I have a 6+ in the allthe way up pos and had to cut a big piece of the corner
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:36 AM   #122
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It looks as though these winglets are a pretty good solution. Has anyone tried them on a R1150GS? If so, then what did you use and where did you get them from?
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:27 PM   #123
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Has anybody tried the other two wings; Cee Bailey or Nippy Normans?
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:15 PM   #124
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It looks as though these winglets are a pretty good solution. Has anyone tried them on a R1150GS? If so, then what did you use and where did you get them from?

I just installed the winglets on my 1150GS. So far I'm not impressed. I can't really tell any difference at speeds up to 60 mph. They also look like they don't belong on the bike.
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Old 02-20-2007, 08:33 PM   #125
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Has anyone tried the Wingletts with the ZTechnik standard windshield? According to their website it is:

Z2242 H: 16.00" (40.6cm) W: 16.00" (40.6cm) at top; 18.00" (45.7cm) at bottom
Stock H: 14.38" (36.5cm) W: 12.00" (30.5cm)




I have this shield and it is an improvement over stock but not sure how it will work with the wings.

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Old 02-21-2007, 01:56 PM   #126
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Has anyone tried the Wingletts with the ZTechnik standard windshield? According to their website it is:

Z2242 H: 16.00" (40.6cm) W: 16.00" (40.6cm) at top; 18.00" (45.7cm) at bottom
Stock H: 14.38" (36.5cm) W: 12.00" (30.5cm)




I have this shield and it is an improvement over stock but not sure how it will work with the wings.

Rodney
\i have the Z technik screen. \i have not tried the winglets but the lower portion of the screen is very similar to the stock screen so \i think it should work.
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Old 02-21-2007, 03:29 PM   #127
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I put a set of the winglets on my wife's 650GS and she says what a great difference.
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Old 02-21-2007, 05:32 PM   #128
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Has anyone tried the Wingletts with the ZTechnik standard windshield? According to their website it is:

Z2242 H: 16.00" (40.6cm) W: 16.00" (40.6cm) at top; 18.00" (45.7cm) at bottom
Stock H: 14.38" (36.5cm) W: 12.00" (30.5cm)



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I've got the standard (not the fancy-boy adjustable) Z-Technik windscreen and the BMW winglets installed in the OEM position. It's a definite improvement over the stock setup. I had the Z-T screen for a year or so before adding the winglets. The screen alone only worked well in the most rearward (flattest) position. Any higher and the buffeting came back. Since adding the winglets, I've noticed less buffeting and turbulence. However, there is more perceived noise around my helmet. If I duck down a couple of inches, my head gets into a nice quiet zone. This makes me think that my next purchase will be the Givi, for its extra height. I still keep the Z-T screen in the most rearward position, as there's more noise and turbulence as I raise it up. FWIW, I'm 5'9" w/a 30" inseam. I've got the 12GS w/a BMW low seat and I wear a Shoei RF-1000 helmet. Hope this helps. If the Givi works out, I'll probably have a Z-T screen for sale. PMs welcome...
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Old 02-21-2007, 05:46 PM   #129
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To clamp or not to clamp?

This might be stating the obvious, but for those who are unsure of whether the benefits of installing the winglets will be worth drilling holes in your plastic, why not take a test run with the winglets held in place with c-clamps...or something similar? Another thought...I've read a few posts about some riders cutting the windshield where it could interfere with the winglets. Why not cut the lesser expensive winglets instead of the more costly w/s? Just a thought. I have a Cee Baily's w/s and keep it in the most upright position, which by the looks of it will interfere at the lower corners with the winglets I want to install. I cut about a 1/2 inch corner (inside upper) off each winglet and it looks like it will do the trick. I'll take a test ride tonight with the winglets clamped down before I decide the drill. Hope it works out!

If these questions have been raised in prior posts...my bad!
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:56 PM   #130
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Talking Sale on Givi Screens

RL Motorcycles is having a 15% off Givi sale through March 31. They also offer $9.95 shipping. Not affiliated, blah, blah, blah. I just ordered a screen for the 12GS. I'll post the results vs the Z-Technik when it comes in.

http://www.rlmotorcycles.com/home/Ac...vi_Luggage.htm
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:17 PM   #131
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I've got the standard (not the fancy-boy adjustable) Z-Technik windscreen and the BMW winglets installed in the OEM position. It's a definite improvement over the stock setup. I had the Z-T screen for a year or so before adding the winglets. The screen alone only worked well in the most rearward (flattest) position. Any higher and the buffeting came back. Since adding the winglets, I've noticed less buffeting and turbulence. However, there is more perceived noise around my helmet. If I duck down a couple of inches, my head gets into a nice quiet zone. This makes me think that my next purchase will be the Givi, for its extra height. I still keep the Z-T screen in the most rearward position, as there's more noise and turbulence as I raise it up. FWIW, I'm 5'9" w/a 30" inseam. I've got the 12GS w/a BMW low seat and I wear a Shoei RF-1000 helmet. Hope this helps. If the Givi works out, I'll probably have a Z-T screen for sale. PMs welcome...
Giuseppe,

Thanks for the input, that's the same shield I was asking about. I'm a little 5'11" with 32" inseam, i'm using the standard seat set with front high and rear low using a Nolan flip lid. My experiance is similar as your's relative to buffeting and noise. I think I may give these a shot, worse is tht I end up with some extra holes....

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Old 02-21-2007, 08:50 PM   #132
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Giuseppe,

Thanks for the input, that's the same shield I was asking about. I'm a little 5'11" with 32" inseam, i'm using the standard seat set with front high and rear low using a Nolan flip lid. My experiance is similar as your's relative to buffeting and noise. I think I may give these a shot, worse is tht I end up with some extra holes....

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Yeah, the winglets are a cheap experiment. Give `em a try. If you're using the stock screen, it couldn't possibly get any worse!
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:25 PM   #133
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This might be stating the obvious, but for those who are unsure of whether the benefits of installing the winglets will be worth drilling holes in your plastic, why not take a test run with the winglets held in place with c-clamps...or something similar?

I doubt that a clamp would hold them in place. I was more willing to risk two holes in each side of the beak than I was having $$ in plastic disappear at high speed
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Old 02-21-2007, 10:16 PM   #134
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I just installed the winglets on my 1150GS. So far I'm not impressed. I can't really tell any difference at speeds up to 60 mph. They also look like they don't belong on the bike.
I thought it was a good fit when I installed mine. First, remove the rear mounting tabs, cutting along the molded ridge of the winglets so they'll clear the fairing ...



... attach it to the bike at the fairing and the aft Tobinator mounting point ...



... using some brackets you make yourself (with a little help from Ace Hardware):



(edit) Not only does it look close to an OEM solution, it actually works. The optimum tilt angle for the windscreen has now shifted a little bit back. The air flow coming off the sides of the screen is less turbulent and stays clean for a longer distance. There are some pretty strong jets of air coming up over the brake and clutch master cylinders, then dead air below that, then more strong jets coming off the bottom of the winglets. It directs more air at my knees which we'll have to see is a good thing or not. It's a LOT quieter when I tuck down behind the screen - that's the biggest change.

With the screen tilted down more my helmet is getting a slightly stronger but more laminar flow. It's noticeably quieter, not quite there but closer to the clean air you get when you stand up. My shoulders are still getting strong air flow because the winglets direct some air up and some down.

If I tilt the screen more vertical the buffeting comes back.

Overall it's a modest improvement. More important changes came when I ditched the OEM screen and added Tobinators. But I'd do it again, no regrets.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:23 PM   #135
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I thought it was a good fit when I installed mine. First, remove the rear mounting tabs, cutting along the molded ridge of the winglets so they'll clear the fairing ...



... attach it to the bike at the fairing and the aft Tobinator mounting point ...



... using some brackets you make yourself (with a little help from Ace Hardware):



(edit) Not only does it look close to an OEM solution, it actually works. The optimum tilt angle for the windscreen has now shifted a little bit back. The air flow coming off the sides of the screen is less turbulent and stays clean for a longer distance. There are some pretty strong jets of air coming up over the brake and clutch master cylinders, then dead air below that, then more strong jets coming off the bottom of the winglets. It directs more air at my knees which we'll have to see is a good thing or not. It's a LOT quieter when I tuck down behind the screen - that's the biggest change.

With the screen tilted down more my helmet is getting a slightly stronger but more laminar flow. It's noticeably quieter, not quite there but closer to the clean air you get when you stand up. My shoulders are still getting strong air flow because the winglets direct some air up and some down.

If I tilt the screen more vertical the buffeting comes back.

Overall it's a modest improvement. More important changes came when I ditched the OEM screen and added Tobinators. But I'd do it again, no regrets.




well, aren't you a clever boy. I just took mine off with the intention of selling them, but I'll have a go at what you did. I can see that mounting them farther forward could help a lot.
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