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Old 07-21-2006, 06:15 AM   #1
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Steering damper for KLR650

Anybody know if they are available? Thanks
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:23 AM   #2
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Anybody know if they are available? Thanks
Like why?
I have chased KLR,s through KAK sand etc no head shaking, try a progressive spring set up or different oil in the forks rather, I am not a KLR rider, just had a better view chasing them in terrain my pig should not have been in!

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Old 07-22-2006, 02:03 AM   #3
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I agree. If your KLR is shaking its head, there's something causing it. Not one of their tendencies when everthing's right.
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Old 07-22-2006, 08:02 AM   #4
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I agree. If your KLR is shaking its head, there's something causing it. Not one of their tendencies when everthing's right.
I motarded the bike and the decreased steering angle makes it a little unstable at high speed.
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Old 07-22-2006, 09:01 AM   #5
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Okedoke, that 'splains it. I'm not informed enough to comment on the availability of steering dampers specifically for the KLR.By the way, your bike looks great. And since you were capable of building it you probly know all this stuff, but it never hurts to check. Where does it shake its head? High speed? Low speed when exiting corners?Front tubes all the way up in the triples? You might try lightening the preload on the rear to bring it down a bit under your weight, see if things improve. I'm not suggesting that you leave it that way, but if it were mine I'd like to know what's really going on. You're probably on the ragged edge in terms of trail with your setup, but don't rule out the simple things like tire pressures, wheel balance, front/rear alignment (which a lot of people never bother to check) stem and wheel bearings, etc.
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Old 07-22-2006, 09:07 AM   #6
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:20 PM   #7
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Check the steering head bearings. Mine were loose from the factory...

You could move the brake to the front of the rotor. The increased mass wiss tend to dampen the oscillations. You can get almost the same effect with a fender bag and some tools.

BTW lowering the forks now would be a bad idea as that would make the geometry worse.
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Old 07-24-2006, 10:19 PM   #8
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Call Scotts and ask about steering stabilizers. You get a live person. My friend has used a Scotts on his KLR 650.

I have a Scotts on my KTM 640. I would not ride without it. They claim my KTM handles better than a KLR and I think it does too having ridden both bikes. When I rode my friends bike he had upgraded his front end at Aftershocks which was expensive. I still think my KTM was a little better.

Then I added a steering damper. This improved the gravel/sand handling of my KTM by 50%. If you notice all the PD riders use them. There is a reason. On the pavement also just a better ride and feel. Check with riders who are using them.
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:19 AM   #9
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Thanks for the responses. I tried alot of the little stuff liketire pressure, rear preload, shifting my weight forward, forks are down in the top clamp 1/4" . Head bearings are brand new properly snugged. I think this is just a result of the decreased rake. Swingarm bearings good. It's not what I would call a head shake wich you would get from bad or loose head bearings. ya know when you can smack one grip and send it into a fairly rapid violent shake. This is more like a gentler weaveing, instability at high speed its worse(80-90). Just alittle disconcerting when I first test rode it after the 17's were on. I can live with it and I'm getting used to it as just a charactoristic of this mod.I got an E-mail from a scotts dealer who said one isn't available for this bike but maybe I'll call them direct. Thanks again
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:36 AM   #10
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Interesting. I would try loosening the steering head bearings first. If they are too tight the bike can't find itself on the road. Maybe try no play but no tension.
Can you stiffen the front end with more oil in each leg, maybe a teaspoon or two of gear oil in each leg also to increase viscosity. Progressive Suspension recommends that for tuning the front forks. Or stiffer springs. I think it should run straight. Something isn't right.
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Old 07-28-2006, 05:28 AM   #11
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Interesting. I would try loosening the steering head bearings first. If they are too tight the bike can't find itself on the road. Maybe try no play but no tension.
Can you stiffen the front end with more oil in each leg, maybe a teaspoon or two of gear oil in each leg also to increase viscosity. Progressive Suspension recommends that for tuning the front forks. Or stiffer springs. I think it should run straight. Something isn't right.
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Yeah and I think its the rake angle. I already put extra spacers in the forks. springs are new 20 weight oil (thicker than most people reccomend. Tried the head bearing,which are new, with no tension, no play first. Then tightened them up a bit but not to the point you cant take your hands off the bars and "steer" with body leaning. Thats my guage for too tight head bearings, if you can't ride with no hands they're to tight.
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Old 07-28-2006, 06:06 AM   #12
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I'll also look at the geometry. As you seem to have done everything else. Start from the ground up.

http://www.klr650.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40173

Another thing to look at would be a fork brace, not recommended for offroad use, they can stiffen the front enough for high speed and they cost less than a steering damper.

Wish it help.

Good looking setup you have there
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Old 07-28-2006, 06:28 AM   #13
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Like why?
I have chased KLR,s through KAK sand etc no head shaking, try a progressive spring set up or different oil in the forks rather, I am not a KLR rider, just had a better view chasing them in terrain my pig should not have been in!

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Hey Welsh, do you think the uninformed rest of the world know what KAK means. Ek weet wat jy bedoel! en stem saam. Waarom dinge wat werk verander?
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Old 07-30-2006, 04:20 AM   #14
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I'll also look at the geometry. As you seem to have done everything else. Start from the ground up.

http://www.klr650.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40173

Another thing to look at would be a fork brace, not recommended for offroad use, they can stiffen the front enough for high speed and they cost less than a steering damper.

Wish it help.

Good looking setup you have there
Thanks, not much I can do easily about the geometry at this point. I have a fork brace.
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:27 AM   #15
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I think this is a popular KLR steering damper....


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