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Old 04-22-2014, 09:13 AM   #1
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2014 1190 AdvR CAT Remove/Replace

Have been looking for anyone who has tried tackling this topic.

Apparently ARROW's exhaust for this moto also includes the optional replacement pipes without CAT.

For someone who already has the Akrapovic slip-on exhaust, the obvious questions. . . 1. Will arrow Cat-less pipe fit the Akra can? 2. Will Akra make a CAT-less pipe for their can?

Has anyone found another solution. . . way to remove the CAT and replace?

Love to hear from you and pics if possible. If I figure something out, I will do the same (post and pics).

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Old 04-22-2014, 09:37 AM   #2
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The arrow pipe will fit any slip on. It is an exact duplicate of the stock pipe.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:49 AM   #3
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The arrow pipe will fit any slip on. It is an exact duplicate of the stock pipe.
That would be the way to go then. Has anyone you know done this? If so, would you have a link?
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:56 AM   #4
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Old 04-23-2014, 01:51 PM   #5
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The arrow pipe will fit any slip on. It is an exact duplicate of the stock pipe.


If its the same pipe (diameter, etc.) wouldn't be easier to just cut the cat our and weld in an open pipe in its place?
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Old 04-23-2014, 02:21 PM   #6
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Easier, no. Cheaper, maybe.

The fit and finish is very good on the Arrow pipe. It looks much better than the stock.
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:30 PM   #7
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Call Rottweiler

I would call Rottweiler, I know they have an 1190 R and are deep into R&D work on it
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:02 PM   #8
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I am waiting until there is a way to remap available before getting the Arrow cat less pipes (or gutting the stock pipes..depending on available budget at the time!).

I have a hard time getting my head around the bike being able to compensate sufficiently for such a change without a new map being installed.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:48 PM   #9
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I was browsing the Interwebs the other day and came across this forum from Australia.

http://www.advridermag.com.au/forum/...uperbike/page5

Scroll to the bottom of the page and start reading at post #50. This guy cut out his Header Cat. Says that it completely eliminated his heat issue. If you read on in the thread, he explains that the on board computer reset itself with about 5 min. of idle time.

*Remember this mod should only be done for off-road use. Wouldn't want to violate any emissions regulations.

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Old 04-25-2014, 09:11 PM   #10
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I was browsing the Interwebs the other day and came across this forum from Australia.

http://www.advridermag.com.au/forum/...uperbike/page5

Scroll to the bottom of the page and start reading at post #50. This guy cut out his Header Cat. Says that it completely eliminated his heat issue. If you read on in the thread, he explains that the on board computer reset itself with about 5 min. of idle time.

*Remember this mod should only be done for off-road use. Wouldn't want to violate any emissions regulations.

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I have the Arrow race pipe and absolutely no heat. I sat in stop and go traffic for 20 minutes last week and was laughing about it the whole time.

No tuning, runs like a raped ape and no heat.

Win Win!!
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:12 PM   #11
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Where did you get it? I want one, for track use of course.
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Where did you get it? I want one, for track use of course.
eBay. Straight from Italy. Connected right to my Wings shorty can and sounds fantastic. Check the link I posted earlier in this thread.
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:26 PM   #13
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2014 1190 AdvR CAT Remove/Replace

I saw that same link the other day. Seems to be the easiest and cheapest way to get rid of the cat, get rid of some heat and some weight.

Doesn't make sense to spend $700 on the arrow header if it's just the same pipe as stock minus the cat. Jus a simple weld in.

Unless someone can confirm the arrow header is a different material, larger pipe, etc. trying to see how to justify the cost of the arrow if all it's doing is just deleting the cat. I also hear the arrow uses the stock rear down tube to connect to it.
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I have the Arrow race pipe and absolutely no heat.

No tuning, runs like a raped ape and no heat.
Hey Wonway - I'm awaiting delivery of my 1190 ADV R & I'm really intrigued by running an Arrow exhaust (without a catalytic converter) with a Wings shorty (strictly for the track, of course) - can you weigh-in on my questions, while also forgiving my ignorance?

  • Does the O2 sensor plug into the exhaust pipe before or after the catalytic converter on the OEM exhaust?
  • Did you do any mods to the O2 sensor (install resistors, etc.) to run the Arrow system?
  • If you did no mods to the O2 sensor, does the Arrow exhaust create any error codes to appear on the the bike?
  • Related to engine heat - do you feel it has been decreased based upon feeling less heat on your legs/butt or have you noticed a decrease in operating temperatures according to the bike's display?
  • Do you know how the bike purportedly "adapted" automatically to the (likely) increased exhaust flow without any help from a re-flash, re-map, etc.?
And anyone else out there with this mod, please feel free to weigh-in.


I ran a Cat-less exhaust system on a Ducati I used to own, so I know it's doable - but this bike also had an altered fuel map, intake system and a Power Commander. In addition, for all you Americans, a lot of shops will refuse to R&R the cat because it violates federal law, so the Arrow becomes the next option, albeit expensive, for those of us without welding abilities.


Thanks!

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:05 AM   #15
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You can core it, or a competent welder can splice in some tube, but if cut & weld I bet it ends up looking fugly. Also in the event you ever sell the bike, you might want to keep the original unmolested pipe for the bike in case your buyer I lives in a state that emission tests mc's. You can always sell the arrow header and recover some of your money. It also looks like Remus has a catless header.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/REMUS-2-1-Sp...item3cd764a16e

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I saw that same link the other day. Seems to be the easiest and cheapest way to get rid of the cat, get rid of some heat and some weight.

Doesn't make sense to spend $700 on the arrow header if it's just the same pipe as stock minus the cat. Jus a simple weld in.

Unless someone can confirm the arrow header is a different material, larger pipe, etc. trying to see how to justify the cost of the arrow if all it's doing is just deleting the cat. I also hear the arrow uses the stock rear down tube to connect to it.
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