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Old 07-25-2012, 10:37 AM   #24076
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Ok. Brown frothy oil
Sounds some coolant got in the oil. Does it look foamy? = warped head or blown head gasket.

If someone near you has a radiator pressure tester and a compression gauge you can tell a lot before tear down.

Coolant system should hold 20 lbs with no leakage. Compression on the TE anyone??
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:10 AM   #24077
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When I pulled the left side cover the first burst of oil was brown like chocolate milk and foamy. But oil out of the oil plug underneath was pretty much normal and the oil on the right side is normal too. I'm going to need some real time help... Probably in a bit over my head.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:45 PM   #24078
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Andy, I would start with the compression test and removal of the valve cover to start with for inspection. The auto-decompression may be tricky for you to get a valid compression reading. You may be able to defeat that once the valve cover is off. Given that you had to add a lot of water more than once, and found the hose completely pulled off, the overheat is a real possibility. Give me a ring as I have many of the tools you might need here and you know how to get here :-). Putting some compressed air in the radiator system to few pounds as mentioned is a good idea also. Can rig up a shrader valve fitting (like I have for pressurizing and blowing out my camper fresh water system) to a coolant hose and blocking off the open end that hose came off from.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:58 PM   #24079
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oil changing

I just posted this accidentally in the index thread. My questions are, I am changing the oil in my "new to me" TE 610 (2007) and I see 2 drain plugs ...... do I pull both of them? I know about the filter and both screens. I have found online the oil capacity to be about 1.8 qts? Sound about right? Any input is appreciated.
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:04 PM   #24080
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I just posted this accidentally in the index thread. My questions are, I am changing the oil in my "new to me" TE 610 (2007) and I see 2 drain plugs ...... do I pull both of them? I know about the filter and both screens. I have found online the oil capacity to be about 1.8 qts? Sound about right? Any input is appreciated.
There are 2 drain plugs. You'll get more oil out of one than the other. The other one just appears to be an area of the engine that can hold oil that doesn't come out the main one.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:41 PM   #24081
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Check for spark.

On a KTM 525 we lost coolant on a 104 degree day and finally the motor stopped. We thought the motor was toast but it turned out we just melted the solder on the stator. I re-soldered the stator and put it back in. The bike ran for another 10,000 miles with no issues. So check your spark.

We were amazed no mechanical internal engine parts failed from the over heating.

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Old 07-25-2012, 03:53 PM   #24082
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When I pulled the left side cover the first burst of oil was brown like chocolate milk and foamy. But oil out of the oil plug underneath was pretty much normal and the oil on the right side is normal too. I'm going to need some real time help... Probably in a bit over my head.
Sorry to hear this! I wish you the best of luck and hope it not to much $$ to fix.


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Old 07-25-2012, 04:22 PM   #24083
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I sent the 610 out to have the suspension worked on and set up for my weight and woods riding mostly. The bike feels great now! The only down fall was the tech put the bottom shock bolt in back wards, so I had to flip it. It did gouge the linkage a bit, but I think it's fine. I don't want to rant and this wasn't a big deal, but I'm so F#@%ING sick of paying mechanics and techs, only to get the bike home and find I have to fix something they missed or messed up and it's even worse when they say " it must have been like that " or something like that. Thankfully I pretty much know the bike inside and out. BTW, it's happened about 5-6 times out of the 5-6 times it's been in a shop, I'm not just being anal. I have to stop tipping


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Old 07-25-2012, 08:35 PM   #24084
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I sent the 610 out to have the suspension worked on and set up for my weight and woods riding mostly. The bike feels great now! The only down fall was the tech put the bottom shock bolt in back wards, so I had to flip it. It did gouge the linkage a bit, but I think it's fine. I don't want to rant and this wasn't a big deal, but I'm so F#@%ING sick of paying mechanics and techs, only to get the bike home and find I have to fix something they missed or messed up and it's even worse when they say " it must have been like that " or something like that. Thankfully I pretty much know the bike inside and out. BTW, it's happened about 5-6 times out of the 5-6 times it's been in a shop, I'm not just being anal. I have to stop tipping

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This is why I have to work on my own stuff. The number of times I've gone into a part of a vehicle that was last worked on by a tech I know and who has a great reputation in the industry and found he messed it all up is stupendous. The last time was my BMW at one of the best-regarded independent BMW specialists in SoCal. Literally watched broken parts that fell off bouncing down the freeway behind me about ten minutes after picking it up. And when I saw their procedure for replacing the part that got broken (collateral damage from the assembly that they actually failed to install correctly), I finally understood why "everybody" thinks they are going to fail "when, not if". The parts don't fail, the techs damage them installing them. Adding insult, I got charged double what I'd previously paid to replace the fresh valve cover gasket that was already in there, and it leaked after I got it back. Didn't leak when it went in. The only one who cares enough to get it right seems to be me.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:34 PM   #24085
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On the other hand, devil's advocate and all... I'm pretty sure Les @ LTR put my rear shock in backwards deliberately, cuz it made the adjuster easier to access. so Are you sure it was actually a mistake?

Andy, are you back from MT now? Sounds like we have more than one tech day coming up?
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:25 PM   #24086
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Aaron, I'm here. It's a mess. Give me a call.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:08 AM   #24087
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On the other hand, devil's advocate and all... I'm pretty sure Les @ LTR put my rear shock in backwards deliberately, cuz it made the adjuster easier to access. so Are you sure it was actually a mistake?

Andy, are you back from MT now? Sounds like we have more than one tech day coming up?
The bolt, not the shock. Yes it gouged the linkage.


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Old 07-26-2012, 03:13 AM   #24088
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This is why I have to work on my own stuff. The number of times I've gone into a part of a vehicle that was last worked on by a tech I know and who has a great reputation in the industry and found he messed it all up is stupendous. The last time was my BMW at one of the best-regarded independent BMW specialists in SoCal. Literally watched broken parts that fell off bouncing down the freeway behind me about ten minutes after picking it up. And when I saw their procedure for replacing the part that got broken (collateral damage from the assembly that they actually failed to install correctly), I finally understood why "everybody" thinks they are going to fail "when, not if". The parts don't fail, the techs damage them installing them. Adding insult, I got charged double what I'd previously paid to replace the fresh valve cover gasket that was already in there, and it leaked after I got it back. Didn't leak when it went in. The only one who cares enough to get it right seems to be me.
It's really awful how poorly techs treat a bike! Had a friend go pick up his sled. While walking in to the place he watched them drop it off the fork lift. He went inside to talk to the owners and they said it never happened.


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Old 07-26-2012, 07:47 PM   #24089
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The 610 is under sprung for most of us in the rear ,this to can cause that to happen . I just had Halls rebuild my rear shock and respring it with a 6.6 spring. It really changed the bike fore the better.
I'm probably 185-190 geared up. What weight is the bike sprung for?

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Old 07-27-2012, 06:04 AM   #24090
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this is why i have to work on my own stuff. The number of times i've gone into a part of a vehicle that was last worked on by a tech i know and who has a great reputation in the industry and found he messed it all up is stupendous. The last time was my bmw at one of the best-regarded independent bmw specialists in socal. Literally watched broken parts that fell off bouncing down the freeway behind me about ten minutes after picking it up. And when i saw their procedure for replacing the part that got broken (collateral damage from the assembly that they actually failed to install correctly), i finally understood why "everybody" thinks they are going to fail "when, not if". The parts don't fail, the techs damage them installing them. Adding insult, i got charged double what i'd previously paid to replace the fresh valve cover gasket that was already in there, and it leaked after i got it back. Didn't leak when it went in. The only one who cares enough to get it right seems to be me.
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