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Old 04-23-2007, 06:15 AM   #751
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XFool, very nice piccies, looks like fun.
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:00 AM   #752
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A ranger once inspected my bike. I weasel through it by mentioning the stock exhaust had a catalytic converter in it. He let me go but recommended I get a USFS approved SuperTrapp exhaust. That suggestion angered me from a noise standpoint, but I totally get the need for a USFS approved exhaust.
Ask the Ranger to show you a stamp on the vehicle he is driving, A vehicle with a Cat is a Spark arrestor, That is what I have been told, I know it is a pain in the arse and most forest personnel don't know squat, legal or otherwise. I worried about it also, but to me the stock pipe was too loud ( stamped meets 80db noise level) Yeah right at 5 miles away, so I bought a LeoVince and installed a Yoshimura spark arrestor quiet core in it, Still not as good as I would like but it is lighter and removes the hotbox cat, till someone makes a quiet pipe it will have to do, But It also does not have anything stamped on it though, as even the Leo Vince spark arrestor was just a screen at the outlet.
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:39 AM   #753
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Well, I got an answer from Pro Moto Billet. I'd asked for dimensions on their end caps so I could adapt one. They don't want to talk about dimensions. Looks like I'll have to find a shop that stocks a few and see what's close in size. It wouldn't be that hard to massage an aluminum pipe to fit a different end cap.

Yeah, it does have a cat in it, but that isn't marked either. That makes ME feel better, at least I won't be starting fires. I just don't want to have to argue with the man...and as loud as this thing is it's bound to happen.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:42 AM   #754
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Get a hold of an 07 pipe from someone selling one. Those have the little sheild built on to them.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:51 AM   #755
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This thread is useless without pics.... Hold on dial-uppers

What bars are you running XFool? TIA

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Old 04-23-2007, 11:52 AM   #756
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Ask the Ranger to show you a stamp on the vehicle he is driving, A vehicle with a Cat is a Spark arrestor, That is what I have been told, I know it is a pain in the arse and most forest personnel don't know squat, legal or otherwise. I worried about it also, but to me the stock pipe was too loud ( stamped meets 80db noise level) Yeah right at 5 miles away, so I bought a LeoVince and installed a Yoshimura spark arrestor quiet core in it, Still not as good as I would like but it is lighter and removes the hotbox cat, till someone makes a quiet pipe it will have to do, But It also does not have anything stamped on it though, as even the Leo Vince spark arrestor was just a screen at the outlet.
Is there a particular Yosh core? Link? TIA,
I really like the idea of making the pipe more quiet...

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Old 04-23-2007, 12:24 PM   #757
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Starting when wet

I reply to Ted about starting after getting wet. Sorry Ted, I'm still learning to navigate this site, missed your question. The first time I mangaged to get the bike up within seconds, not enough time for much water to soak in. Simply pushed it up an embankment as far as I could to get the front wheel up and triggered the starter a few times and she started right up!. The second time we were in the water longer and did the same thing but it would'nt start. Took the filter off and sprayed some WD-40 into the screen at the back of the filter while cranking the starter and Brrrraup! Squeezed out the filter and kept goin. WD-40 mini can never leave home without it.
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:14 PM   #758
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I reply to Ted about starting after getting wet. Sorry Ted, I'm still learning to navigate this site, missed your question. The first time I mangaged to get the bike up within seconds, not enough time for much water to soak in. Simply pushed it up an embankment as far as I could to get the front wheel up and triggered the starter a few times and she started right up!. The second time we were in the water longer and did the same thing but it would'nt start. Took the filter off and sprayed some WD-40 into the screen at the back of the filter while cranking the starter and Brrrraup! Squeezed out the filter and kept goin. WD-40 mini can never leave home without it.
I hope you take the sparkplug out next time that happens, if any water gets thru the carb into the combustion chamber, hitting the start button can hydrolock your engine in a second (water won't compress, pistons will break, rods will bend etc.)
Tilt your bike up (wheelie) to make sure exhaust is free off water, remove sparkplug & use short burst's of magic button (preferably kickstarter if there is one), if no water comes out, then its safe to restart the engine. If you do have water in the engine, keep turning it over untill no more shoots out the sparkplug hole & check you oil, chances are good it'll need numerous fill ups & drains to get all the H2O out
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:24 PM   #759
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I reply to Ted about starting after getting wet. Sorry Ted, I'm still learning to navigate this site, missed your question. The first time I mangaged to get the bike up within seconds, not enough time for much water to soak in. Simply pushed it up an embankment as far as I could to get the front wheel up and triggered the starter a few times and she started right up!. The second time we were in the water longer and did the same thing but it would'nt start. Took the filter off and sprayed some WD-40 into the screen at the back of the filter while cranking the starter and Brrrraup! Squeezed out the filter and kept goin. WD-40 mini can never leave home without it.
Thanks for the info. I went out last spring after heavy rains and about a month after buying my bike. It had been 24 years since my last bike and although it's like "riding a bike" some parts do come back slower than others. Plus a 300+ lb. 610 4-stroke dual sport takes some getting used to considering my last bike was a 175cc 2-stroke enduro ('83 KDX). So anyway, I dropped deep into a valley of woe and water and suffered hours of struggling and near water death experiences. Oh, and of course I was by myself. The experience has really made me leery of water crossings. This is a major departure from my riding youth. I was slow to develop fear back then and now it seems to happen freely and regularly. Probably not at bad thing given life's new responsibilities. Anyway, I'm sure it's coming I'm just not looking forward to my first full submersion.

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PS I just read that and I sound old. I got to snap out of it and get out there and get dirty!!
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I hope you take the sparkplug out next time that happens, if any water gets thru the carb into the combustion chamber, hitting the start button can hydrolock your engine in a second (water won't compress, pistons will break, rods will bend etc.)
Tilt your bike up (wheelie) to make sure exhaust is free off water, remove sparkplug & use short burst's of magic button (preferably kickstarter if there is one), if no water comes out, then its safe to restart the engine. If you do have water in the engine, keep turning it over untill no more shoots out the sparkplug hole & check you oil, chances are good it'll need numerous fill ups & drains to get all the H2O out
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:50 AM   #761
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Well, my 5.0 black tank showed up a day early. Figures I'm in the middle of another project.

I stopped by cycle gear and rifled thru their promoto billet spark arrestors until I found one that measured close to my rough measurements. I figured at 3.5" x 5" would get me close to the stock end cap.

It did. Almost a perfect match. It's their end cap for a YZ426F.

I tried drilling out the rivets and popping the stock end cap off the pipe, I gave up since it looked like I'd booger up the pipe if I tried any harder. So I broke out the cut off wheel and sliced the end cap off.



Darn close.



That's going to look pretty good and take some heat off the turn signal.



I need to cut off the stepped part for a better fit.



I need some longer rivets and the use of the power tools to clearance the inside of the pipe for the screen cone...I'll give the fam a break and save the noise for later.

The end cap fits so well that I feel much better about cutting up a brand new $130 billet part.
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:29 AM   #762
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That'a awesome...now let's get that tank on!
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:08 AM   #763
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What bars are you running XFool? TIA

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Bars are FMX Pastrana bend.

I was happy with the stock bars but bent them. For a replacement I wanted the highest bars I could find. The Pastrana’s are only slightly higher than stock and have a funky elbows out bend.

Warning: The hoodlum elbows out bend will affect your road riding manners physically and mentally.
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:11 AM   #764
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Larryboy, let us know how that sounds when you're done. It looks like it will be great
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:18 AM   #765
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Bars are FMX Pastrana bend.

I was happy with the stock bars but bent them. For a replacement I wanted the highest bars I could find. The Pastrana’s are only slightly higher than stock and have a funky elbows out bend.

Warning: The hoodlum elbows out bend will affect your road riding manners physically and mentally.
Does that mean they have more sweep? My hands bother me because the stock bars don't have enough sweep, putting pressure more on the inside of them...hoping to find some taller bars with maybe a 1/2" more sweep. TIA

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