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Old 08-04-2006, 09:07 AM   #1
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DL650 compared to F650GS

Considering getting a K7 DL-650 with ABS.
I have been riding about 6 months after MSF course.
Had a K1 F650GS for 4 months, loved it dearly.
Loved the low center of gravity, handling, ergos, really everything.
Had electrical problems the dealer couldn't find and after calling for a jump 1 too many times I gave it back to the dealer.
(BTW they were great- Irv Seaver in OC.)

I was planning to get a DL650 but after reading some comments about it's high center of gravity I'm wondering if it's right for me.
I probably will use 80% on road for awhile but intend to go off the pavement eventually. (6', 230lbs, 32" inseam.)

Anyone have experience on both to compare and comment?
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:17 AM   #2
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Bogiewan,

There are much worse bikes to choose than the DL-650. There might be some that are better, but that really depends on the kind of riding you will be doing.

I don't have a DL-650, but I do have a DL-1000. Don't have much more than a few rides on a F650GS Dakar, but I own a KLR650, a KLR250 and a KLX250.

If you're going to ride mostly highway - you state 80% of the time I think you will be happy with the DL-650.

Off road prowess is something that can only be developed by riding in the dirt. There is a certain feeling that must be learned and the only way to do that is to ride the bike in the conditions that you want to ride in.

I have been with some outstanding riders that could probably take a Gold Wing 1800 into some areas that I take my KLR650 into with no problems. However they spent many hours riding in those conditions to learn how to handle the bike!

It's not really the bike my friend, it's the rider when it comes to being able to ride off road.

Just a thought.

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Old 06-23-2008, 10:57 AM   #3
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Still haven't found the search function, I see.

You seem to know its been covered every way from Sunday, so why not do some research, go ride both, and make up your own mind?
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:21 PM   #4
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F650 vs. DL650

I've ridden the F650GS a good bit as a lead rider for BMW. I recently bought a DL650, so I've spent some saddle time on each machine. I have more miles on the F650 than the Wee.

They are both great bikes, but you already know that. For a 650 single, the F650 is much smoother and 'all-day' comfortable at highway speeds than it has any right to be. The F650GS, particularly the Dakar, has the potential to handle gnarlier off-road riding than the Strom.

The Strom will handle unpaved roads well, but lacks the ground clearance and suspension travel that give the GS the edge in more challenging terrain. In my opinion, the Strom is a better on-road bike - it has more power, a better ride, more conventional ergonomics and more weather protection than the GS.

If your interests tend more toward dirt and you want a bike that's comfortable to ride a distance to the dirt, the GS is probably a better choice. If you tend to be more of a street/touring/sport rider and you want a dual-sport that will do really well on pavement, get the Strom.

A lot depends on setup, but I think it would be accurate to say that while the F650 is very good on pavement, it will never be as capable on asphalt as the Strom. Likewise, the DL650 can be set up to be very good off-road, but it will never equal the capability of the F650GS (especially the Dakar) in the dirt.

It's all about what is fun for you and, at the end of the day, it's the rider, not the bike...
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:37 PM   #5
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So what about the new twin F650GS
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:41 PM   #6
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I've ridden the F650GS a good bit as a lead rider for BMW. I recently bought a DL650, so I've spent some saddle time on each machine. I have more miles on the F650 than the Wee.

They are both great bikes, but you already know that. For a 650 single . . .
Damn! I really, really, really wish BMW had picked a new model designation for the twin. I think most current comparo interest is between the Weestrom and the new F650GS twin - not the old single.

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Old 06-23-2008, 07:39 PM   #7
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I agree, and I'm beginning to wonder if I'll have an easier time getting a F650GS next month than the DL650 I've had a deposit on...
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:30 PM   #8
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Damn! I really, really, really wish BMW had picked a new model designation for the twin. I think most current comparo interest is between the Weestrom and the new F650GS twin - not the old single.

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I can't imagine why they're calling the new detuned twin by the same name as a previous model - it seems confusing, illogical - utterly 'un-German'.

The Wee and the 'to be unveiled' F650GS are the most comparable (assuming the promised F650 isn't just vaporware), but the original poster was asking for a comparison of the thumper F650 (he had a 2001 he was lusting after) and the Wee.

I would really, really like to ride the F800GS and compare it to a DL650.
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:24 AM   #9
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The "new" F650gs isn't "vaporware" & is available in Canada currently. In fact at one of the stops on the BC Big Traille ride one ended up in the same parking lot as we did

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The Wee and the 'to be unveiled' F650GS are the most comparable (assuming the promised F650 isn't just vaporware), .
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:24 AM   #10
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The "new" F650gs isn't "vaporware" & is available in Canada currently. In fact at one of the stops on the BC Big Traille ride one ended up in the same parking lot as we did
Sorry, haven't been paying close attention. It appears that someone in Alberta posted pics of their new F650GS a month ago. My bad.
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:03 AM   #11
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I would really, really like to ride the F800GS and compare it to a DL650.
The F650GS twin is more like the DL650's competition instead of the 800GS which is looking at the Africa Twin, Super Tenere, DL1000, KTM990 etc niche ....
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