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Old 10-11-2006, 05:30 AM   #31
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LD, thanks for taking the time for the detailed review. ... I recently ordered a size large Tipperary Air Esprit equestrian rider's vest
No problem, but the review belongs to everyone who owns one; I just started the thread.

Since you and Eff are using the vest on the street (and I'm not), please do post up your experiences with it, good or otherwise. You'll have a different perspective than I will.

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Old 10-11-2006, 07:45 PM   #32
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Just thought about this -- how's the material when the temps drop? (Like around freezing or less) Does it get stiff, or is it still pliable?


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Old 10-11-2006, 11:23 PM   #33
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Any idea on how puncture proof they are? Where I ride a fall onto/into a stick is a forseeable event.

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Old 10-12-2006, 04:40 AM   #34
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I have seen as much as a 40 degree variation in temps since getting it. The material hasn't changed one bit.

It's so heavy duty, I feel it would prevent with all small punctures, minimize most medium, help at some level with larger puncture attempts.

It offers about an inch of heavy, dense foam.

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Old 10-12-2006, 04:42 AM   #35
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I suspect if it fits easily under your mesh jacket, you are riding around in the wrong sized jackets.

For jacket armor to stay in place, and to prevent blisters from heating up in a crash, it's important to have a snug jacket on the street, no?

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Old 10-12-2006, 01:36 PM   #36
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I hear ya!

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Old 10-13-2006, 11:01 AM   #37
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It's so heavy duty, I feel it would prevent with all small punctures, minimize most medium, help at some level with larger puncture attempts.
Yep. If I had to pick something to wear when falling onto a 2" diameter broken-off tree stump, this vest would be it. The outer surface is hard, not quite polycarbonate hard, but very firm. It'll slow pointy things down pretty well, in addition to distributing the load a bit.

And frankly, true "stabbing" injuries seem rather uncommon among riders, probably since things small enough to be really pointy generally break off when you hit them. Mostly I've seen concentrated bruises from small hard things, like rocks and medium-diameter branches. This vest is great for that sort of thing.

As for mesh jacket fit: mine fits great in the shoulders and arms, it's just that the torso is sized for someone carrying a few more six-packs around their six-pack than I am. So the vest fits fine in there.

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Old 10-14-2006, 09:03 PM   #38
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I rode 265 miles with it, on the outside, today. Very similar experience. It's as if we have the exact same day!

Only difference is I only do the zipper then take my jacket off. It hangs onto my jacket almost as one piece.

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Old 10-17-2006, 02:44 PM   #39
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Excellent thread!

Can anyone post a pic of the vest worn under their jacket? I'd be interesting in seeing how obtrusive it looks.

Also, any problems with the vest riding up? I'm thinking of PFDs here...if they don't fit well, eventually the shoulder straps end up by your ears.
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:14 PM   #40
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Excellent thread!

Can anyone post a pic of the vest worn under their jacket? I'd be interesting in seeing how obtrusive it looks.

Also, any problems with the vest riding up? I'm thinking of PFDs here...if they don't fit well, eventually the shoulder straps end up by your ears.
Both riders in this thread are wearing the vest in every single picture:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164773

Hard to tell, no? It's not very thick and should fit pretty closely if you're more-or-less "normal" shaped.

And under our jackets there was no riding-up problem. Haven't tried the vest-on-top yet.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:06 AM   #41
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thanks ldb...that's pretty impressive. I'm thinking of placing order. I was debating between this and the velocity gear armor, but I'm leaning toward the vest.

One add'l question for you: you're happy with the size L? I'm trying to fit my frame, and I often find the sizing charts online pretty subjective. FYI, we have similar builds--I'm 6'1", 185, 34" waist. Any sizing thoughts based on your experience?
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Old 10-19-2006, 07:21 PM   #42
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One add'l question for you: you're happy with the size L? I'm trying to fit my frame, and I often find the sizing charts online pretty subjective. FYI, we have similar builds--I'm 6'1", 185, 34" waist. Any sizing thoughts based on your experience?
I am indeed happy with the L. The side adjustments are very flexible (it'd probably fit anyone up to 250 pounds or so, and cinches down on my scrawny self fine) so girth is a non-issue. The length is right for me on my bike; it doesn't hit the seat, it doesn't get in the way of bending over, it covers my solar plexus and upper abs.

However, if it was any longer, it might be too long, and if it overlapped on the sides much more, it might be too much. If you want a more compact fit, you may be better off with an M. If you want more coverage (which I did) go with the L. The panels adjust very easily, so either one will probably hold onto you fine. You just gain some length and potential gut space (or clothes layering space) with the L.

My dad is also about our size, and I never saw him fuss with the thing (also an L) for the week we had them on. He would be one to fuss if he didn't like it.

Maybe that helps...
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:00 AM   #43
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sure does--thanks again. TGIF
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Old 10-20-2006, 05:40 PM   #44
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Do you find it slightly interferes with helmet turning...as I do?

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Old 10-23-2006, 11:26 AM   #45
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additional sizing stuff

I ended up ordering today from doversaddlery.com. For anyone interested, they offer $10 off a customer's first order of $75+, which brought the cost to about $145, shipped. They do have them in stock.

Before ordering, I called Performance Products to check about fit. For what it's worth, they were pretty adament that a) the fit should be snug, and b) it should be worn practically next to the skin, under any jacket or insulating layers. For me (44 chest, 34 waist) they suggested the medium.

I decided to follow their recommendation (I planned to wear it under my jacket anyway), and I'll report back when it arrives. Personally, I don't see how you'd lose protection/effectiveness if you wear it outside a jacket. With abrasion, sure, but as ldb pointed out, the vest has a big adjustment range and should snug down atop layers just fine...
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