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Old 08-21-2006, 03:54 PM   #16
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Outstanding report and excellent photo work!
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:05 PM   #17
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The first person that I know of to downsize a modern motor for hill climb was Dan Watson my old compnay did the machine work for him first on a CBR900RR then on an F3 or F4. He went out and won both the 800cc and 540cc AMA Championships that year. I think he was the first to win both in a season.
I would not be surprised if the KTM had some kind of external magneto ignition on it. We used to put them on dragbikes but electronic ignitions repalced them. http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...y/100_0414.jpg
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:07 PM   #18
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Wait I went back and looked there are oil lines there so now I am guessing some kinf od head oiling system. Maybe they can't get enough oil to the head during the runs. It is not a supercharger since that would need to be connected to the carbs and head.
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Old 08-21-2006, 11:48 PM   #19
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Love it. That was my grandpa's sport back in the 30s when he rode an Indian 4. That big old Harley looks awesome, but imagine slapping a paddle chain on the rear tire of a mostly stock Indian 4 and launching it up a hill. He spent four years on the 'circuit', riding his bike between events like most competitors and the stories he could tell - best one was the day he won and this pretty young thing asked him to the dance at the county fair, grandma spent the next three years on the back of his Indian. Wish they were still around to share your pictures with.
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Old 08-22-2006, 01:19 AM   #20
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Outstanding report and excellent photo work!
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:00 AM   #21
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Great report !!! I always wanted to go to one when I lived up north..Dad used to go back in the 70's and they were far from a "family" event back then...
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:16 AM   #22
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Look at the people standing near the top of the hill. They are standing straight up and they could reach the ground just by sticking their arm out. That is steep!
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:20 AM   #23
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There is an AMA Hill Climb National near Allentown, PA Sept. 10 if anyone is interested in seeing it live?
http://www.bikehillclimb.com/
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:24 PM   #24
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That 525 setup is weird. +1 on the oil line comment, but it also looks like the water pump may be driven off it as well (looks like a bigger water pump where the stock one goes- end of cam). I wish there were a few more pics from other angles.

The oiling issue seems weird. Do they need a pump to push oil up into a cooler? It looks like a line runs up high in front of the rads... Makes me wonder- would a high pressure oil pump up there cause trouble by putting extra pressure upstream of the sump oil pumps? Hmmm.

I agree that it could be to get more oil into the topend. Don't the RFS engines use the camchain to "sling" oil into the topend? Maybe they use that to get some more up there....
Either way- very interesting.

Also noticed right away that this wasn't AMA. Bolts and chains on the tires = not such a good idea. There is a reason the AMA outlaws this. What happens when that 6 oz huge bolt flies out of that rear paddle at 125mph? Or even worse, the 5 lb set of chains breaks and/or is thrown. Probably more likely for a bolt to fly... Dangerous shite either way.

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Old 08-22-2006, 03:40 PM   #25
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That 525 setup is weird. +1 on the oil line comment, but it also looks like the water pump may be driven off it as well (looks like a bigger water pump where the stock one goes- end of cam). I wish there were a few more pics from other angles.

The oiling issue seems weird. Do they need a pump to push oil up into a cooler? It looks like a line runs up high in front of the rads... Makes me wonder- would a high pressure oil pump up there cause trouble by putting extra pressure upstream of the sump oil pumps? Hmmm.

I agree that it could be to get more oil into the topend. Don't the RFS engines use the camchain to "sling" oil into the topend? Maybe they use that to get some more up there....
Either way- very interesting.

Also noticed right away that this wasn't AMA. Bolts and chains on the tires = not such a good idea. There is a reason the AMA outlaws this. What happens when that 6 oz huge bolt flies out of that rear paddle at 125mph? Or even worse, the 5 lb set of chains breaks and/or is thrown. Probably more likely for a bolt to fly... Dangerous shite either way.

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I am not familier with AMA hillclimb rules. Are you saying that they will only sanction "rubber" on tires "no metal"?
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:34 PM   #26
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Also noticed right away that this wasn't AMA. Bolts and chains on the tires = not such a good idea. There is a reason the AMA outlaws this. What happens when that 6 oz huge bolt flies out of that rear paddle at 125mph? Or even worse, the 5 lb set of chains breaks and/or is thrown. Probably more likely for a bolt to fly... Dangerous shite either way.

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Old 03-17-2008, 06:50 PM   #27
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One of the most professional looking teams was from California. Orange County infact, my old stomping grounds.

Great to see the Petersons out East, but did Kery bring his LC8 out there?

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Old 03-17-2008, 08:24 PM   #28
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Outstanding pics!

Thanks for sharing. Went to the Poags Hole Hillcimg several years ago when I was living in Rochester, NY. Sure brings back some memories...
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Old 03-18-2008, 12:27 PM   #29
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And the thread resurfaces again!

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Great to see the Petersons out East, but did Kery bring his LC8 out there?

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No, no LC8s there. I missed last year but I should try to make it again this year. Seeing these machines in real life is amazing and the atmosphere is like a big redneck BBQ.
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Old 03-22-2008, 04:10 PM   #30
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thanks for bringin this thread back beez! wikked machines!
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