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Old 04-16-2007, 07:34 AM   #76
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bump....

finished a short 150 mile ride yesterday....shelly rolled into garage and smoke pouring out exhaust....you know....blueish tint oil smelling exhaust....

..I don't have time to deal with this again...and a BIG WTF!!!!!...

I shot video of it.....basically...after a ride...come home to idle...and smoke comes out of exhaust.,...not normal....but then it clears out after a bit....but when revved to 4-5K...it has a smoky exhaust

this is still under warranty....and worth having them look at it again?...

BTW my 04 weestrom was fine and ridden way way harder than Shelly rides her's...
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Old 04-16-2007, 08:20 AM   #77
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I'd take it in ASAP. The problem will get worse and riding conditions will get better. A college friend had this happen with her Honda Civic. She didn't get it fixed and the motor died before reaching 60,000 miles.

If the shop isn't performing to standards, check with your local Better Business Bureau. I did this once with non-motorcycle stuff. Someone from middle management was on the phone within hours and my problem was immediately resolved.

You should have a bullet proof motor. It would seem that a proper fix will have you running for years.
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Old 04-16-2007, 08:40 AM   #78
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Crank case breather

Check the crank venting.... that will do it. check the vent the hose etc
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:05 AM   #79
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If a shop tears into an engine and replaces hard parts only to have an oil-burning symptom return unchanged, that indicates they never fixed the problem in the first place. I'd start to get really worried about the competence of the shop. Wow, it would be a shame to have had major engine work done when it was something simple like a crankcase breather problem.

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Old 04-16-2007, 10:48 AM   #80
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yeah it is all fixed up...and only ONE month +...
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Wisconsin's lemon law

If the motor vehicle you buy or lease turns out to be a "lemon," the manufacturer has to replace it free or refund the price (minus a reasonable amount for mileage).

What is a "lemon"?


A new vehicle - no more than a year old and still under warranty - is a "lemon" if
  • It has a serious defect the dealer can't fix in four tries, or
  • It has one or many defects that prevent you from using it for 30 days or more (the 30 days need not be consecutive)
http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/...s/lemonlaw.htm


I'd look into demanding a new bike.

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Old 04-16-2007, 11:05 AM   #81
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http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/...s/lemonlaw.htm


I'd look into demanding a new bike.


They must either fix it correctly or give you a new one. You should not have to suffer with repeated shop failures or be forced into fixing it yourself.
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:53 PM   #82
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yeah it is all fixed up...and only ONE month +...

but not a dime out of pocket ...they were good about it and were a bit surprised I noticed the problem and brought it in...

it was a 20% leak down something something...valve guide....

they did manage to eff up the head gasket when they put it back together...but that was replaced...and they were very apologetic..

the reason there isn;t many good mechanics on this engine is...they usually do NOT require any work !!




shelly is happy to have her wee back

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I don't doubt that your conclusion is close to right..... nobody would believe the SV motor NEEDS tearing down.... then, finding a mechanic anywhere that "has experience" in rebuilding that unit..... Are we kidding? it just doesn't happen.

I have only heard of one other huge problem like this that was probably a build issue, and as it so happened, it was a "wife bike" also [I'm feeling a little insecure of my masculinity even as I type it...] . hubby and wife riding shiny new weestroms, side by side under the ever blue sky, and seemingly out of nowhere the wifes weestrom emitted a horrible noise and just died.
The clutch had self-destructed in a big, bad way.

the dealer tried to blame the wife....... bless him.

the bike only had something like 900 miles on it.

so, sometimes those bipeds that work in the assembly plants have a hangover or something...
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:06 PM   #83
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I hope this comes to a smooth resolution.

Good luck. Keep us posted.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:45 PM   #84
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FREEFLOW,

My friend I hear your pain.

Now, remember this . . . . .

You no longer have to mix the gas and oil together. Suzuki now has 4 stroke engines!

I promise you that if you stop mixing the two, the smoke will stop!

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Old 04-16-2007, 02:49 PM   #85
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bump....

finished a short 150 mile ride yesterday....shelly rolled into garage and smoke pouring out exhaust....you know....blueish tint oil smelling exhaust....

How many miles since the total tear down?

I'll bet they've got some work to do on the front cylinder now..
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:17 PM   #86
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au contraire mon frer....wees go nort...KLRs go south
no dates set...clearing some time

BTW yes kudos to Suzuki.,,,this was an extended warranty (that the previous owner bought and I worked to get transferred..a real PITA....but I jumped thru their hoops cuz I felt they were jerking it around a year ago....I;d never buy an extended warranty)...factory warranty went out a month before this or so
Are you going to trade it since it is a lemon?
I purchased the extended warranty on my Uly hoping I would never have to use it. Sounds like it came in handy really. How much did you pay for that?
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:04 PM   #87
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How many miles since the total tear down?

I'll bet they've got some work to do on the front cylinder now..

checked the logs......wifey not ride this much since end of october last year...500 miles or so....it'll go in....this bike not needed for a few weeks.....


checking breathers.....but they did a bleed down test last fall....and rear couldnlt hold...whatever....


oil is now 1/4 - 1/2 qt low...on low side of window.....9K miles on bike...bought used with 3 K...an 05 in late late 05...and transferred an extended warranty....

big 4 brand dealer shop.....but dumb as shit IMO.....and they always question the rider and user...but I shove a big BULLSHIT in their face....and LOUD...LOL....they admitted last one was incorrect valve guide placement at factory...new head and all...they will get it tomorro or wed....


kinda irrating though.....
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:12 PM   #88
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kinda irrating though.....

Yeah no doubt.. 500 miles sounds like they didn't fix the problem to begin with..

It would seem that all you can do is let them, or someone else, have at it again..
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Old 04-16-2007, 06:19 PM   #89
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Yeah no doubt.. 500 miles sounds like they didn't fix the problem to begin with..

It would seem that all you can do is let them, or someone else, have at it again..


no doubt.....I will..and have time ...and have other bikes....I never agree with extended warranty BS...and is was a PITA to transfer from the PO who was a major tweekr wrench IMO... whatever...they make new bikes every dam,n day...still love it and what it is

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Old 04-19-2007, 11:50 AM   #90
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update.....

leak down test all great...within 3%...the last time when they warrantied and replaced the head on rear cylinder...leak down on that one was 20%ish

but oil in the airbox again like last time....suzuki is stumped....

last oil change was by the dealer...and within the sight glass marks....but now at low end....

some other breather system tied to the airbox was full of oil too....



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