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Old 09-28-2006, 03:42 PM   #1
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KTM 625 SXC -- Anyone installed an extra oil cooler or reservoir ?

I read the LC4 index and saw 1 thread regarding this but nobody that actually did it.

Anyone mounted an Oil Cooler or extra oil reservoir on a 625SXC ?

I am debating between 640 Enduro, ADV or SXC... this is one big point for me.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:52 PM   #2
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Christian,

IIRC the 2004 and beyond SXCs have the same oil capacity (1.9L) as the LC4E and adventure. 2004's also have the fcr carb as well. Guess they could all use some extra oil capacity.

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Old 09-28-2006, 03:57 PM   #3
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IIRC the 2004 and beyond SXCs have the same oil capacity (1.9L) as the LC4E and adventure. 2004's also have the fcr carb as well. Guess they could all use some extra oil capacity.

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seems like the US specs SXC in 04 don't have the extra oil. They came here only in 2003 and 2004 that's all. I know about the FCR, but my concern is oil.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:23 PM   #4
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IIRC the 2004 and beyond SXCs have the same oil capacity (1.9L) as the LC4E and adventure. 2004's also have the fcr carb as well. Guess they could all use some extra oil capacity.

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i could be wrong but ive never heard this before? one way to find out really quick though is to look at the front of the bike and see if it has a spin on oil filter coming out of the main downtube. if it does then it means that it has the extra oil in the tube like the LC4-E and Adventure models.

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Old 09-28-2006, 05:33 PM   #5
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Thanks, I've seen the filter on the new SMC but not on the older SXC

I am trying to find if anyone makes an aftermarket to retrofit a bike that doesn't have it.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:37 PM   #6
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seems like the US specs SXC in 04 don't have the extra oil. They came here only in 2003 and 2004 that's all. I know about the FCR, but my concern is oil.

That extra oil capacity is one of the main reasons I went with the LC4E and ADV bikes instead of the SXC (that and cost of cush hub and extra fuel capacity). The expense of adding a cush hub seems to make it easier to get the LC4 and change the carb instead of trying to add oil capacity and cush hub to the SXC (and tank and matching seat if you want more range).
Keep in mind that the Adventure tank gets close to what a typical car gets per tank 200-300 Miles depending on carb set up and rider (mine is around 200 with FCR). I think I got circa 150 miles on my 18 liter (stock BST carb). The smaller tanks tend to turn into a pain in the ass if you plan on lots of road miles but, of course they are better for serious off roading. I used to ride a LC4E with the 12 liter and I traded to the 28 liter tank because the gas station interval was to tight. Then I had another LC4E with the 18 liter and now I have the Adventure with the 28 Liter. I'd say anything less than the 18 Liter is no good unless you are riding mostly off road near home (or trailering). Big road miles requires the 28 liter tank (sometimes called 25 liter) especially with the thirstier FCR carb I have now that relegates that big tank to circa 200 mile range.
It all comes down to how you intend to use the bike. If you are gonna be commuting to work and such, I would get the Adventure or LC4E 18 liter with longer service intervals (and switch the carb when you can afford to) but, if you only intend to use the tarmac to connect trails and don't mind a little tighter oil change interval then get the smaller capacity SXC (LC4E with 18 liter makes a nice middle compromise).
I don't really have a garage or work space and I ride 1,100+ miles to work every month so the Adventure is the way to go for me to keep the service intervals at a tollerable level however, your situation may vary. I will say the Adventure is a bit more versitile with its power receptical and range.
The digital speedo/odometer comes in very handy for letting you know your fuel situation and speed easier than the analog set ups on the smaller bikes do (has reserve warning light too) The only thing I don't like better about the Adventure is its a bit more involved (4 screws more) to get the tank off and it doen't come stock with the FCR. You just gotta ride with a half empty tank off road so its handles like the smaller bikes.
So in summation I'd say anything less than the 18 liter turns into a trailer bike unless you live near the trails and any thoughts of big road miles or touring will have to be at least 18 liters but, preferably the Big adventure.
The consensus is that its easier and cheaper to turn an adventure into an
LC4E than the other way around if you are thinking of that option. This gives you the versatility of all three bikes. I had thought of this option but, in time, I just adjusted to the slightly piggier bike and didn't worry about it
because its not worth all the extra gas stops in my current riding scenario.
For myself, the smaller oil capacity and lack of cush hub are deal breakers on the SXC (and you gotta do the dual sport lights your self).
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:41 PM   #7
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I read the LC4 index and saw 1 thread regarding this but nobody that actually did it.

Anyone mounted an Oil Cooler or extra oil reservoir on a 625SXC ?

I am debating between 640 Enduro, ADV or SXC... this is one big point for me.
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I highly dobut it; unless it's some kind of home made affair; this is one reason why I sold my 625 and replaced it with the 640 Adventure
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:44 PM   #8
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That extra oil capacity is one of the main reasons I went with the LC4E and ADV bikes instead of the SXC (that and cost of cush hub and extra fuel capacity). The hassle with that and especially the expense of adding a cush hub seems to make it easier to get the LC4 and change the carb instead of trying to add oil capacity and cush hub to the SXC (and tank and seat if you want more range).
Thanks, I already have the cush hub wheel from my 520EXC, the SXC also has the high flow. it seems that for me, it's easier to do SXC to dualsport than Enduro to more power.

But as I said, I am looking at options at this time.

The dream ... 03 640ADV and I would buy a smaller tank. But there are hard to get around... somebody wanna trade a 520EXC ?
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Old 09-28-2006, 07:04 PM   #9
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The dream ... 03 640ADV and I would buy a smaller tank.
wanna talk about difficult......that is going to be tougher than anything else you have proposed so far. they dont make a smaller tank that will work with the front fairing of the adventure, you can put one of the smaller tanks on it but then your going to have to change everything else up front to use it.

i dont know if it will work but this is what they use on the 660 rally for an oil cooler. it may work on a 625 but dont quote me on that.....

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I looked at it, if you loose the speedo and RPM and loose the fairing for an acerbis type headlight, it's just fine.
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Old 09-28-2006, 07:42 PM   #11
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I looked at it, if you loose the speedo and RPM and loose the fairing for an acerbis type headlight, it's just fine.
then why not just get the LC4-E....???? seems like a lot of work to make something that already exists.

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Old 09-28-2006, 08:26 PM   #12
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then why not just get the LC4-E....???? seems like a lot of work to make something that already exists.

just my $.02

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because I want the fairing and big tank for long adventure and commuting and small tank and headlight for more nasty stuff.
I did this with NX650 etc... one bike to do all...
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because I want the fairing and big tank for long adventure and commuting and small tank and headlight for more nasty stuff.
I did this with NX650 etc... one bike to do all...
Posts like this sure make me glad I bought my 2003 before the price and availability got to be so crazy. I'll keep you in mind if my financial house of cards collapses and I need to sell. Keep an eye on the flea market and E-bay. Occaissionally good deals show up if your patient. I bought a 2 year old LC4E with 250 miles on the clock AND full TouraTech luggage for 5,500 off E-bay. There was a really clean 03 Adventure that sold on this flea market not too long ago (I think 5,500) but ya gotta be quick or they are gone.
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:10 PM   #14
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then why not just get the LC4-E....???? seems like a lot of work to make something that already exists.

just my $.02

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The Enduro isn't quite as sexy as the Adventur'...

HERE is an updated link. He says 800cc of additional oil storage and extra cooling. That is more than the frame holds (600cc).
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The Enduro isn't quite as sexy as the Adventur'...

HERE is an updated link. He says 800cc of additional oil storage and extra cooling. That is more than the frame holds (600cc).
Thanks, I know Joe but that's for the RFS not the LC4.
Also looking at the small radiator I don't know how he can fit 600cc in there.
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