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Old 11-30-2009, 03:32 AM   #1
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Water Wetter or any other type of coolant

Has anyone used these antifreeze coolant products such as Water Wetter or Ice or any of the other out there? Some claim a huge drop in engine temps and others state that its "racing approved". I understand that they're supposed to break the waters surface tension but do they really work like they claim?
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:47 AM   #2
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I've never tried on a bike. I used it in a 474 Pontiac motor I had trouble cooling. It dropped temp about 20 degrees. YMMV
I used the Water Wetter.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:21 AM   #3
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They do not have any antifreeze properties... its coolant only.
But they do drop the temp by about 20 degrees F.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:31 AM   #4
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I use it on my bike. Seemed to help but hard to be certaain with a proper gauge. Ran it in my hopped up chevy powered airboat and it does work. Instant reduction in water temp shown at the gauge.
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Old 11-30-2009, 05:58 AM   #5
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Water wetter won't do anything to keep your coolant from freezing... Keep that in mind. I used it in my Camaro and it dropped the temp 30+ degrees. I think it works better in vehicles where the coolant might be the weak link. My friends tried it in their cars with little to no result, but later figured out they had a sludgy radiator or too high of a thermostat. Never used it in a bike, but given my past results with it, im considering putting some in my 250.
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Old 11-30-2009, 06:09 AM   #6
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Redline stuff.....

Is the best.

In a 302W drag car, dropped temps 30deg at the startline, and 15deg at the end of the 1/4, run after run after run. Held temps much closer from beginning of runs to the end, so more consistent across all ambient temp ranges.

In numerous street cars, takes much longer to get hot, but by the same token also takes longer to cool down when it does get hot (but had to use it on the highway in 48degC temps to find that out).

In Ktm 640 LC4 dropped temps by one bar on standard "guage" consistently, even in high-40's degC, never overheats ever.

Most coolants increase the surface tension of the water, which allows bigger bubbles to form around critical areas in the head coolant passages, like around exhaust valve seats. Bigger bubbles means less coolant touching the metal, so more heat, so bigger bubbles, etc. Water Wetter reduces surface tension, so allows more temps before the big nasty bubbles form, more water on the metal, less hotspots and less heat.

Only downside to the stuff is it will not stop your water from freezing up, probably more a problem in North Wherever than Midwest West Oz!

Thanks for that, I feel much better now......
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:02 AM   #7
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I use Engine Ice in the 525, and will be using it in the 640 I just got.

With it, and synthetic oil, I can feel the difference in the heat coming off the motor. And my electric fan doesn't come on as often.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:22 AM   #8
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I use Engine Ice and it does seem to work well.
It does have anti-freeze capability down to -26 degrees F.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:49 PM   #9
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Hmmm, maybe I'll give the stuff a try.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:20 PM   #10
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engine ice here in tucson. as soon as i started using it my red light quit coming on and the fan hardly turned on. my bike cruises in the heat right were the thermo says it should. i have one of those temp sticker on the inlet side of the rad and it confirms the temp. i wont use anything else, plus its biodegradable. you can pour it down the sink and dont have to worry about anything.

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Old 11-30-2009, 04:29 PM   #11
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Engine ICE

I love the engine ICE. Just put it in my VTX1800 this year. It protects from freezing like anti-freeze. What made me a believer is another guy I ride with has a VTX1800N model and we rode to a riders wake this summer, my cooling fan stayed on, and his came on once. We were in funeral traffic in 100+ degree heat and his bike was cool enuff to touch the cylinder while mine was running the fan all the time. I will put it in the KLR this winter when I do the service work on it.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:45 PM   #12
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I used Water wetter in the GSXR and saw no difference and I used it exactly as described in the structions..maybe a tad cooler but that might have been me wanting it to be cooler. I didn't have cooling problems, but it was hotter than normal that Summer....
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:52 PM   #13
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I use Water Wetter in my Speed Triple and will be putting in the DRZ when I do a flush. As stated the fans come on less in August NYC traffic and the gauge never passes half sweep. In the winter I sometimes wonder if the gauge is even working.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:56 PM   #14
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water wetter and ice. or
just use jet dry.
they all break the surface tension of the material you are cooling. which allows for better cooling.
but after 200 degrees they all fall back to being just like coolant or regular water.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:57 PM   #15
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Evans coolant really made the difference on my bikes.
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