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Old 06-26-2013, 10:09 AM   #5746
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Wilber Shock Issue

Having issues with fitment of my wilbers shock. see post below with pics

said throw it in here as well as xchalleneg

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Old 06-26-2013, 11:41 AM   #5747
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Having issues with fitment of my wilbers shock. see post below with pics

said throw it in here as well as xchalleneg

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=4870
Pics? I didn't see any pics.

I mounted a Wilbers on my XCountry and the piggyback is ridiculously close to the pipe but I got it to fit. As I recall it was like a gap of only 1 or 2 credit cards thick. Although I could never say that heat actually caused a problem. I've since switch to a Yacugar with remote rez (and it actually does not bottom out finally!). Here's my Wilbers pics: LINKY

I assume you are talking about your rez being close to your pipe? Here is a bottom up pic of my old mount:
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:52 AM   #5748
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Pics? I didn't see any pics.

I mounted a Wilbers on my XCountry and the piggyback is ridiculously close to the pipe but I got it to fit. As I recall it was like a gap of only 1 or 2 credit cards thick. Although I could never say that heat actually caused a problem. I've since switch to a Yacugar with remote rez (and it actually does not bottom out finally!). Here's my Wilbers pics: LINKY

I assume you are talking about your rez being close to your pipe? Here is a bottom up pic of my old mount:
pics are in the link in bottom of my post

was your wilber sbottoming out?

mine actualy has the exhaust pushing against it hard enough

ill re post them



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Old 06-26-2013, 12:08 PM   #5749
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just spotted this,

on your wilbers the 2 offset bushes were both facing towards exhaust

on mine there are mirror opposit

i remember trying turn these but no joy

is it possible the lower one can be switched as this could be the issue
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:04 PM   #5750
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You must have the shock offset away from the exhaust, due to the piggyback. BOTH on the lower and upper mounts (just rotate the eyelet until they align). That has to be your problem then. Yes it bottomed out still, I even worked with Ted Porter to try stiffer springs. Something was wrong with it from day 1 as my Yacugar is awesome now. Maybe I should put a nut on the lower bolt? kidding.

Still don't see your link to pics in that thread post. Doesn't matter if this fixes it!
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:10 PM   #5751
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Ya think as they linked from ukgser forum they are linked from there

Its used shock so hope lad didnt ride it offset as tried turn it before fitted it and was solid

Lower bolt was sum bitch pull out

My old wilbers was great in f650 but worried about this one.

Bike does sit lower think
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:26 PM   #5752
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Ya think as they linked from ukgser forum they are linked from there

Its used shock so hope lad didnt ride it offset as tried turn it before fitted it and was solid

Lower bolt was sum bitch pull out

My old wilbers was great in f650 but worried about this one.

Bike does sit lower think
You can order custom shocks from wilbers that lower the bike up to I think 75mm... Is it possible its a shorter than stock one? Relieve the weight off the rear wheel and measure eye-eye and that should tell you (forget stock off hand)

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Old 06-27-2013, 02:23 AM   #5753
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When had them side by side they looked same lenght

Have wp forks in so may dropped front little.

Still only get 1 foot half down so tall enuf

Twisted lower shock around so all offsets facing correct way

Shock now rubs headder not pushing hard off exhaust
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:12 PM   #5754
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Pro Screen Install

Anyone install a proscreen with cycra probend handguards?
If so on what side of the cycra mounts did you install the mounts for the screen?
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:27 PM   #5755
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The TT tank is gravity fed into the main tank, so reserve range should be the same.

My question on the TT tank is, does it drain/feed into the main tank fast enough during fill up, or do you have to fill both tanks?

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if you haven't already mounted the TT tank to your bike, don't pipe it the TT way (drilling holes in the original tank etc). Instead run the TT tank to a T piece (mine has quick disconnects near the front and accessible, then a T piece sitting above the oil filter area out of the way, this then goes though a size converter and into the original tank air intake. works great.

this way if you hole a tank, you dont loose all the fuel. just turn the tap off on the holed side. it also sucks all the fule through as it goes to the rear making the weight stay low and rearward as it goes.

reserve will be either the same or more depending on the stop/starts etc. going from memory, i think i have got up to about 90km on reserver but normally it is 50km on the original tank.

If you want to have a deliberate larger reserve, then leave one of the TT taps shut. as long as it doesnt tip over you should get a decent bit of the lobe holding fuel depending on terrain/bumps.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:10 PM   #5756
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The TT tank is gravity fed into the main tank, so reserve range should be the same.

My question on the TT tank is, does it drain/feed into the main tank fast enough during fill up, or do you have to fill both tanks?

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Fill the main tank, close it up, then fill the TT tank. If you have it plumbed into the main tank vent, it will start to feed by gravity.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:05 AM   #5757
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Remus & Hepco Racks

Wife was in her cage and me on the XCo heading to breakfast before work and she mentioned that she couldn't hear the bike until she was right next to me. Told me we should put an exhaust on it

I remember reading, but can't find it again, that the Hepco Becker pannier racks aren't compatible with Remus exhaust. Can anyone verify that?

Any other exhaust that has proper supports? And fits with HB racks?

I am a huge Remus fan, have them on both my other bikes, and its my first goto recommendation.

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Old 06-29-2013, 08:11 AM   #5758
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You must have the shock offset away from the exhaust, due to the piggyback. BOTH on the lower and upper mounts (just rotate the eyelet until they align). That has to be your problem then. Yes it bottomed out still, I even worked with Ted Porter to try stiffer springs. Something was wrong with it from day 1 as my Yacugar is awesome now. Maybe I should put a nut on the lower bolt? kidding.

Still don't see your link to pics in that thread post. Doesn't matter if this fixes it!
So did this fix your offset problem with the Wilbers?????
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:17 AM   #5759
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You can order custom shocks from wilbers that lower the bike up to I think 75mm... Is it possible its a shorter than stock one? Relieve the weight off the rear wheel and measure eye-eye and that should tell you (forget stock off hand)

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Yes the shock length is shorter (the internal rod is shorter and hence overall mounting length). There is a multiplying factor due to the geometry so if you reduce the shock length by X then the wheel travel reduces by X * Factor. I know for wheel travel the Factor is 3.44, and for measurements at the seat for seat height it is almost identical I have estimated (though it seems like it should be tiny bit less?)... Nonetheless, as an example a 10mm shorter shock results in (10mm * 3.44 = 34.4mm, or 1.35") shorter height at the wheel (and almost the same at the seat). This is all for the bike raised with the rear wheel off the ground. Don't forget your actual seat height depends on the sag, which is determined by the shock setup (spring rate, etc).

So with my estimates, if Wilbers says a shock lowers the seat height by 75mm then I think the shock is shorter by: 75mm / 3.44 = 21.8mm. You lose a lot of wheel travel of course so if you go off road you better stay on the mellow stuff (DAMHIK).

You can order custom shock builds with shorter rod lengths on other brands too. In the US, for Wilbers, HyperPro, and Yacugar I really like Ted Porter at Beemershop.com in Santa Cruz, CA... great service. His website is old, he is the sole US distributor for Yacugar as well, and I just switched from my Wilbers to a Yac and it works great - finally!

OK more info than you wanted to know but the point is... If you are serious about lowering (or raising or maximizing wheel travel and keeping the seat height at a reasonable level) and buying a new shock, you can specify the length you want up front when it is custom built initially, rather than spending more $$ later. See my website (in my sig) for some more ideas on length calculations on the X bikes.

There are a lot of Ohlins shock users on this thread, I'm sure they can be shortened as well but don't know who to recommend.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:21 PM   #5760
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What does the clutch lever sensor do? Since adjustable levers seem to be difficult to find for clutch I was wondering about replacing the whole perch. That would mean no sensor though... But I am confused on what it would even do on such a "dumb" bike..

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