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Old 05-15-2007, 03:36 PM   #751
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Does the TT skidplate give any better protection for the drain plug?
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:29 AM   #752
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I was just wondering if the XC had any passenger pegs? I haven't seen any. THe seat looks long enough (unlike the TE610) and with a little work by Renazco it could be acceptable for day trips.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:00 AM   #753
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I was just wondering if the XC had any passenger pegs? I haven't seen any. THe seat looks long enough (unlike the TE610) and with a little work by Renazco it could be acceptable for day trips.
Passenger pegs come standard on the XCountry and as an option on the XChallenge and XMoto.

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Old 05-16-2007, 12:16 PM   #754
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At JT it's the JTF 402. The same front sprocket design has been used on every BMW 650cc single in the last 10 years. It hasn't changed so it seems on JT's site.
Anyone in the US know where to order this online? My local dealers have been no help. One said he never heard of JT, the other said his catalogue does not list a 14T, just the stock 16T, and he was unwilling to call JT to find out if one exists. BMW Atlanta? If you're willing to sell them, I would like to buy one or more.

Also, I haven't been able to connect to SprocketSpecialists for days, either from work or from home. Anyone know what happened to them?
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:26 PM   #755
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Anyone in the US know where to order this online? My local dealers have been no help. One said he never heard of JT, the other said his catalogue does not list a 14T, just the stock 16T, and he was unwilling to call JT to find out if one exists. BMW Atlanta? If you're willing to sell them, I would like to buy one or more.

Also, I haven't been able to connect to SprocketSpecialists for days, either from work or from home. Anyone know what happened to them?
Sprocket Speciaties does not make a 14th F650 front sprocket, however they do have a 15t front sprocket. I have yet to confirm that the G650 uses the same CS/Front sprocket as teh F650, I will try my best to confirm that in the next day or two. Sprocket specialties can make just about any size rear sprocket though. If you went up 3 teeth that would be very similar to droping one in front I would think.
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:05 AM   #756
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Hello everyone! Newbie here!

I've been lurking around here for about 3 weeks and finally decided to join!
I couldn't find a introductory thread so I'll just tell a brief bio about myself here.

Well where should I start? OK, here we go...I'm 20 (Yes I'm a young whippier snapper), I've been riding motorcycles most of my life but have not tried any long adventure trips (hope to soon, they look extremely fun), I'm a guy (if any girls were wondering), anything else...oh yeah, I'm joining the Air Force so if anyone here knows some great off-road places near some US Air Force Bases let me know! Oh yeah and my name is Blake.

The reason I'm posting in this thread is because I absolutely love BMW motorcycles and the new G650 XCountry-Challenge...wait...WHAT THE HECK IS THAT???

I'm glad you asked ;)

The BMW XCountry-Challenge is a one of a kind bike...OK not really, It's just a XChallenge with the seat, faux tank, and shrouds from the XCountry...what gave me this idea...well I was looking for enduros and I saw the XChallenge...I fell in love with the bike on first site...until I saw the seat height. I'm 5'07" and have a 30" inseam so the 36"+ seat height discouraged me. And then I saw the XCountry with a more reasonable 33" seat height but it has less "off-roadingness" then the XChallenge.

So I started wondering, *Hey why can't the XCountry seat go on the XChallenge*. So I started searching the net to see if any one has done it. This is where I ran across this thread and site. After someone here mentioning you could do it but you would have to switch the faux tank and shrouds too. I though *Well thatís fine, it might ruin the looks but as long as it functional*. But boy was I wrong...

This is the Picture I photoshopped and IMHO it looks absolutely beautiful...


And just for kicks I made a morphing .gif of the XCountry-Challenge...


So that what I want to do to my XChallenge when I get it. (soon after I get stationed somewhere)

And thatís about it...
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Old 05-17-2007, 01:24 AM   #757
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G'day Blake,

I'd say welcome aboard, but as I'm a relative noobie too, that would seem a bit presumptuous!

I'm having very similar thoughts to you. In fact, it may have been me who mentioned this earlier in the thread. I had a close look at the bikes side by side not long ago in a dealer to check if it's possible, which it appears to be.

As I'm selling my R1200RT shortly and then traveling around Japan for a couple of months later this year but not on two-wheels I'll be looking to buy a new bike around Mar/Apr '08 (after the English winter). So I'd be really keen to hear if you get yours and do the conversion!

A G650X is at the top of my current list, but I want to see the F800GS and KTM 690 Adventure before I make any final decision...

Good luck with it,
Steve

Ps. Like you, I also did some photoshop work to see what a G650XCountryChallenge looked like, but then I got carried away and added some other features I'd like to be able to take on and off - like a fairing (pinched from KTM), a multi-purpose tank bay for helmet, bag or extra fuel (pinched from F650CS) and some hard luggage (pinched from the 1200GS Adventure). Anyway, here it is...
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Old 05-17-2007, 01:53 AM   #758
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I like that allot!

I think the biggest disappointment with the G650X is the small fuel tank. It would be great if someone could make a tank that replaces the faux tank and doubles as the air intake shroud. (not like the TT one thatís is coming out) more centralized if you know what I mean.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:13 AM   #759
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Sprocket Speciaties does not make a 14th F650 front sprocket, however they do have a 15t front sprocket. I have yet to confirm that the G650 uses the same CS/Front sprocket as teh F650, I will try my best to confirm that in the next day or two. Sprocket specialties can make just about any size rear sprocket though. If you went up 3 teeth that would be very similar to droping one in front I would think.
Bobby,

Thanks for the info. Looking forward to any more info you may have. I'm partial to swapping out the front countersprocket, because it doesn't require changing the chain, whereas, going larger on the rear sprocket usually does.

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Old 05-17-2007, 06:16 AM   #760
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At JT it's the JTF 402. The same front sprocket design has been used on every BMW 650cc single in the last 10 years. It hasn't changed so it seems on JT's site.
Just heard back from the USA rep for JT. They're saying they don't carry the JTF 402.14 for North America. But they could place a special order (read --> $$).

Looking forward to your report to see if its worth it.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:30 AM   #761
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Does the TT skidplate give any better protection for the drain plug?
The clearance seems to be the same. Therefore, it is slightly better protection, simply from the standpoint of the metal plate being much beefier. Then again, without mounting the rubber spacers, some may consider it more likely to bend, if you're prone to riding the GX on super rugged terrain and casing it into tree stumps...
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:57 AM   #762
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New XChallenge review

See MotorcycleUSA.com's 1st ride report/review of the XChallenge (& XCountry) here: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Articl...ID=4725&Page=1

Seems like they were somewhat impressed by the XChallenge, but they didn't feel that it's a true enduro (yet), more of a dual sport. Main gripes were the rear air suspension (which they found to be "unrefined"), and rock-hard seat...
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:03 AM   #763
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The clearance seems to be the same. Therefore, it is slightly better protection, simply from the standpoint of the metal plate being much beefier. Then again, without mounting the rubber spacers, some may consider it more likely to bend, if you're prone to riding the GX on super rugged terrain and casing it into tree stumps...

I hope while you were buying the new skid plate for the 650X, you bought one for the KTM 250. (sorry, had to say it) Anyway, what did you have to do to fix the KTM? To answer your earlier question, I got dunlop 606 tires for my 650X. Plan to mount then this weekend. I have been very busy during the week with working OT and need to take a weekend off from riding to get some maintenance done and get ready for Memorial Day weekend. Katy is not too happy about me not riding, however her current plans include going riding with one of our friends.

I may also take the canister off of the 650X is I get time and it is simple to figure out.
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:11 AM   #764
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Just heard back from the USA rep for JT. They're saying they don't carry the JTF 402.14 for North America. But they could place a special order (read --> $$).

Looking forward to your report to see if its worth it.
That's bullshit from that rep about those extra $$ (and he knows it). All they have to do is include it on the next shipment.

Talon is another producer of front sprockets. You need the TG302-14 from them.

Good luck!
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:13 AM   #765
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The BMW XCountry-Challenge is a one of a kind bike...OK not really, It's just a XChallenge with the seat, faux tank, and shrouds from the XCountry...what gave me this idea...well I was looking for enduros and I saw the XChallenge...I fell in love with the bike on first site...until I saw the seat height. I'm 5'07" and have a 30" inseam so the 36"+ seat height discouraged me. And then I saw the XCountry with a more reasonable 33" seat height but it has less "off-roadingness" then the XChallenge.

So I started wondering, *Hey why can't the XCountry seat go on the XChallenge*. So I started searching the net to see if any one has done it. This is where I ran across this thread and site. After someone here mentioning you could do it but you would have to switch the faux tank and shrouds too. I though *Well thatís fine, it might ruin the looks but as long as it functional*. But boy was I wrong...

This is the Picture I photoshopped and IMHO it looks absolutely beautiful...


And just for kicks I made a morphing .gif of the XCountry-Challenge...


So that what I want to do to my XChallenge when I get it. (soon after I get stationed somewhere)

And thatís about it...

I really like that pic and have been wondering along the same lines. I am nore interested in the X-Country as I have a dedicated dirtbike and am selling my dedicated sportbike for lack of intrest, so the X-Challenge and X-Moto don't light my fire. However, I'd like to see the X-Country with a screen/fairing of some sort to block a little wind, rain and bugs - maybe the fender/headlight setup from the X-Ch, or the X-Mo. Also, a larger tank / fuel capacity would almost be a must - could carry extra fuel bottles I guess if it came to that. I'd also like the X-Country's tire sizes better for advriding as compared to the 21/18 dirtbike size of the X-Ch.

I think of having the X-Co with a set of TKC'c, heavy duty bash plate of some kind (TT?), larger fuel tank/capacity, some sort of wind screen, and some add-on luggage (soft or hard either way). Kind of like a mini-Wee-strom, but lighter and more dirt worthy.
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