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Old 10-14-2006, 02:57 PM   #1
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Question KLR 650 Chain question to bring a spare or not

Hey all,I am embarking ,in three weeks on a trip that will take me from Toronto thru San Diego,down Baja ,over to mainland Mexico,down to Panama,back up the east coast to Cozumel,over to Cuba,then Dominican Republic,and hopefully back thru Miami and off back to Toronto.I am trying to keep my bike weight down ,and need thoughts on weather I should bring a spare chain/splitter/links .I know its not that much weight,but with all my tools I am bringing ,I have 80 lbs of tools/spares etc.
Has anyone ever broken their chain?
All helpful comments gratefully received.
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Old 10-14-2006, 03:08 PM   #2
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I usually keep a couple master links, length of 4-5 links, and a motion pro chain tool in my kit.
Never needed it, but its nice to have in case.

If you already have a shitload of miles on that one changing
it and the sprockets before you take off might a good idea.

Sounds like a great trip.
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Old 10-14-2006, 03:42 PM   #3
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Dude.. that's an awesome trip.. I hope you won't get caught in a snow storm along the way.. they just got 2 feet of snow in buffalo!

If you're concerned about the chain, I'd replace it and the sprockets before I go, then you should be good for the duration of the trip.

Best of luck! Safe journey.. take lots of pics and be sure to come see us in Ride Reports when you get back
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Old 10-14-2006, 04:20 PM   #4
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I woudn't bother carrying a full chain anywhere in the U.S. or Canada. I might carry links and splitter if a lot of that time was in the boonies. Chains are too easy to obtain. I'd risk it. Up to 5 lbs. for a chain alone.

If you don't have too many miles on your current setup you might consider running it until you get to southern Cal, swapping on new parts before you enter Baja. That would give you fresh stuff and some peace of mind in places where nice chains may be harder to find.
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Old 10-14-2006, 06:11 PM   #5
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You can expect about 25k to 20k miles from your KLR chain if it has been lubed and adjusted on a regular basis. I suggest putting on a new chain if you'll hit 20k miles on the chain during your trip. I've carried spare chains on long trips before, but I've never needed them.
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:28 PM   #6
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I get about 10-12k miles per chain, but I ride a lot of dirt.

I'm sure you know, but KLRs use a 106 link 520 chain. Pretty universal and available everywhere. If you're going to be riding more than 10k miles without a bike shop around, just change out to a good quality chain (I like DID X-ring) before you go. There is absolutely no reason to pack a spare chain.
If you are worried, 5 or 6 links and 2 master links is plenty.
I have never heard of a broken chain on a KLR, ever.

I would like to know what exactly 80 lbs of tools / spares contains? Seems a bit excessive to me.
I mean apart from tubes, cables, and some electrical crap, what more could you possibly need?


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PS I strongly suggest you invest in one of the military rear brake pedal brackets before you go, along with a "pedalsaver" (not sure exact name, but basically wires front of brake pedal to skidplate).
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:56 PM   #7
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Talking Tools carried

Tools I am bringing are :-
1. all sizes needed,open/closed wrenches
2. a variety of sockets
3. neddlenose vise grips
4. multi-use pliers
5. front tube/rear tube(heavy duty)
6. three oil filters
7. allen keys
8. couple of screwdrivers
9. various nuts/bolts/misc. items
10. two zeena alarm/disc locks (pretty heavy themselves)
11. two motion pro 16" tire levers and repair kits
12. air compressor
13. acc cable/(2) clutch cable
14. spare clutch lever and brake lever
15. can wd40/rad sealer/rad weld/loctite
and prob some more that I cannot think of right now,but its funny how it all adds up,i swear.




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I get about 10-12k miles per chain, but I ride a lot of dirt.

I'm sure you know, but KLRs use a 106 link 520 chain. Pretty universal and available everywhere. If you're going to be riding more than 10k miles without a bike shop around, just change out to a good quality chain (I like DID X-ring) before you go. There is absolutely no reason to pack a spare chain.
If you are worried, 5 or 6 links and 2 master links is plenty.
I have never heard of a broken chain on a KLR, ever.

I would like to know what exactly 80 lbs of tools / spares contains? Seems a bit excessive to me.
I mean apart from tubes, cables, and some electrical crap, what more could you possibly need?


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PS I strongly suggest you invest in one of the military rear brake pedal brackets before you go, along with a "pedalsaver" (not sure exact name, but basically wires front of brake pedal to skidplate).
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Old 10-14-2006, 09:20 PM   #8
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You'll learn....

I once set out to ride a horse across the U.S. Actually 2 horses. I rode one and packed the other.

When I left California I had everything I thought I could possibly need to address any situation.

By the time I reached New Mexico I had shipped most of it home.

A good percentage of that was in tools. In my case most of them were tools to shoe horses. There is no such thing as a light shoeing tool, and it's generally accepted that it takes about 8 such tools to do a quick, professional job. I can now do it with 3.

I had leather punches, bits of leather, rivets, rope... never needed any of it. I carried enough of it to build a new saddle if I had to.

The same applies to eating and cooking utensils, sleeping acoutrements and comfort items.

I'm not trying to insult you, but there are a lot of smart folks in here. Maybe you could start a thread and share your tool and equipment list as Stu has suggested. Get some ideas on alternatives and ways to make things do double duty that you may not have considered.

I never liked you, by the way.

You're doing something I'd kill to be doing right now.
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Old 10-14-2006, 09:30 PM   #9
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Ooops. I see that you have.

Disregard.
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Old 10-15-2006, 12:04 AM   #10
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Are you running a clip masterlink? Bring several spare clips. Or get it riveted.

You aren't going to get into anything nasty enough on those tires to worry about smacking the chain.
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Old 10-15-2006, 04:52 AM   #11
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Stuff I carried for the GDR attack:

http://www.mindspring.com/~gbyoung2/...cking_list.htm

Excess, I know......

Spare collarbones, not included...

For your Item 11, you might wanna consider a set of these:

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/...6_combo_lever/

These combo tools are extremely light, and take the place of separate tire irons and axle wrenches. I got the 12/13, 22, and 24mm versions.

A Bead Popper will round out all you'll need to get the rear bead broken:

http://www.racetools.com/popper.html

Have a safe trip.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by irishdec
Tools I am bringing are :-
1. all sizes needed,open/closed wrenches
2. a variety of sockets
3. neddlenose vise grips
4. multi-use pliers
5. front tube/rear tube(heavy duty)
6. three oil filters
7. allen keys
8. couple of screwdrivers
9. various nuts/bolts/misc. items
10. two zeena alarm/disc locks (pretty heavy themselves)
11. two motion pro 16" tire levers and repair kits
12. air compressor
13. acc cable/(2) clutch cable
14. spare clutch lever and brake lever
15. can wd40/rad sealer/rad weld/loctite
and prob some more that I cannot think of right now,but its funny how it all adds up,i swear.
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:44 AM   #12
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You got way to much chit. I buy my chains 110 links and carry the excess (6 links for me 'cause I run a 104 link chain) and a couple of clip style master links. On a recent 12,000 trip I had 35-40 lbs or gear total, which included tools, tent, sleeping bag/pad, stove, food, water, etc.

I would start with a fresh chain and sprockets if what you have on there has more than a few thousand miles.
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:07 AM   #13
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[quote=CA Stu]

I would like to know what exactly 80 lbs of tools / spares contains? Seems a bit excessive to me.

CA Stu


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40# of canned beans?
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:52 AM   #14
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Laugh

Given the massive horsepower and torque of a KLR, I'd carry at least two chains. They're real arm stretchers.

To the Boy Scout, you forgot the arc welder to fix the sub-frame. And the generator. But, I do like the air compressor, make sure it has a 120 gallon tank, you don't want to run out of air.
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Old 10-15-2006, 09:39 AM   #15
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You've put some thought into that tool list. Not too bad, just heavy.

Item 1: Are you carrying BOTH a set of open end and a set of box end? I can't tell. If not I'd suggest one set of combinations. Stubby combinations.

Item 2: Anything that doesn't fit something on the bike? Just checking. The deep plug socket doesn't fit anything else on the bike, for example. The one in the stock tool kit is way lighter. In fact almost everything in the stock tool kit is lighter, even if some of if it is not of the best quality. Put some of your smaller sockets inside any of your deep sockets and save some room.

Item 10: 2 common Master locks keyed alike, through a disc hole. They're gonna take everything else if they can't get the bike, anyway.

Item 12: Have you reduced your compressor to simplest form?

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