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Old 11-02-2006, 05:58 PM   #1
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Bringing an Out-of-State Bike into California

Can anyone tell me if the only thing California DMV looks for when bringing an out-of-state bike in for registration is that it has at least 7500 on the odometer? I'm fine as far as that goes but I'm psyching myself out about anything else. Bike has an aftermarket can on it but I will be able to put the stock back on. I guess I'm more worried about any emissions that might not be on it that they will look for. Do all bikes sold in every state come with that charcoal canister? Thanks for any input (sorry if I put this in the wrong forum).
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Old 11-02-2006, 06:05 PM   #2
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You might be better served in the Regional forums.
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:18 PM   #3
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If it's a BMW, it's a 50-state bike and the 7500 mile rule shouldn't apply. The 7500 mile rule is for vehicles that are not CA emissions compliant. That's so you can't buy a non-compliant vehicle in another state then bring it immediately to CA to register it. Check the CA DMV site for specific info. Dan
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:42 PM   #4
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dtop1 got it right.

<7,500 miles and it's considered a "new" vehicle and must meet CA emission requirements.
Bikes that do will have a sticker somewhere stating that they meet all states' requirements (the '07 KTM EXC models do!).

>7,500 miles and it's considered used, so you don't have to meet requirements.

Join AAA, and let them handle the title and reg transfer - fast and easy.
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:46 PM   #5
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I bought my '04 KTM 950S from an out-of-state seller. The DMV required that I bring the bike in for an inspection. They wanted to see the VIN and the engine numbers. They also wanted to see the factory-applied emmision sticker (which was under the fuel tank). I had to take the bike home and remove the fuel tank and then trailer the bike back in for them to see the sticker. Keep in mind my bike had only 2k miles on it. The sticker showed that the bike met the CA emmision standards. They didn't really look at the mufflers (which were stock) or anything else. Good luck.
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:49 PM   #6
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I brought in a 1997 Gsxr 600 from Arizona about 6 month ago. I had the AZ pink (notarized), and bill of sale. It had 18K miles on it. They checked the odometer, the vin and the engine serial number. It did not have any smog or blinkers or bodywork on it. It didn't even have the fuel tank on it.
I got the new plate on the spot, with stickers. I had to give them about $200 for late fees, transfer, tax, etc. Pink arrived 2 weeks later.
Now a dual sport is different. Have not had sucess yet.
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Old 11-02-2006, 08:04 PM   #7
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Most of the above is correct but the 7,500 mile isue is because of taxes not the 49 vrs 50 state thing

CA has extra tax applied to new vheicles and they have NO intrest in using reason. AAA can not do this for you ( at least not the several ofices I have used) out of state bikes/cars Etc have to go through a dmv OR!!!! there are dealers that have certified inspectors that can do this paperwork for you ( I would look to a Dealer that sells what you bring in since there will at least be some incentive for him through parts and service$ in their future.

They will not ( in my expearence 10-15 out of state purcheses) look to see any thing other than the DOT and emmisions stickers ( even if over 7,500 miles) and Both Vin #s ( yes BOTH!! ) and will look for engine #'s (though they can not tell if they are the right ones unless they are listed on the title) They will not look to see if the lights work or any thing else.

Just the onemindedness of the stickers and Vin numbers.

Have your paper work in hand and a good attitude and spare time.

IF you use the DMV make an appointment if possible , if not go in take a number , go out side get it inspected ( this will save time) then go back in and wait for your turn. If you use a private certifier take his paperwork in along with yours ( you will not need the bike at the DMV if a private inspector has done the paperwork)

Now the trick! go after 4pm! once inside the door they will get you out before 5PM ( YMMV) and do not take time to play inspector Clusoe.

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Old 11-02-2006, 09:25 PM   #8
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http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures...cts/ffvr29.htm

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Can anyone tell me if the only thing California DMV looks for when bringing an out-of-state bike in for registration is that it has at least 7500 on the odometer? I'm fine as far as that goes but I'm psyching myself out about anything else. Bike has an aftermarket can on it but I will be able to put the stock back on. I guess I'm more worried about any emissions that might not be on it that they will look for. Do all bikes sold in every state come with that charcoal canister? Thanks for any input (sorry if I put this in the wrong forum).
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:04 PM   #9
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I've brought in two in the last 4 months.

Notarize the sellers signature on the title. Get a form 262 filled out if possible (acts as bill of sale and mileage verification) and have the seller give you power of attorney (same form 262).

The bike will be inspected for VIN, engine number and emissions sticker. that's it.
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:28 AM   #10
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Can anyone tell me if the only thing California DMV looks for when bringing an out-of-state bike in for registration is that it has at least 7500 on the odometer? I'm fine as far as that goes but I'm psyching myself out about anything else. Bike has an aftermarket can on it but I will be able to put the stock back on. I guess I'm more worried about any emissions that might not be on it that they will look for. Do all bikes sold in every state come with that charcoal canister? Thanks for any input (sorry if I put this in the wrong forum).
I just imported a used motorcycle to California from Arizona and have done a bit of research regarding the paperwork needed to register it here.

E-mail me at addicted2it@sbcglobal.net and I'll tell you what I found out, but I don't remember anything pertaining to odomoter readings.

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Old 11-03-2006, 07:35 AM   #11
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Out of country bikes

In the case of a Eurospec bike that's been in the US but never registered, what's a California resident looking at here when it comes to registering it?
Note, may only have a bill of sale, no other paperwork...
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:56 AM   #12
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In the case of a Eurospec bike that's been in the US but never registered, what's a California resident looking at here when it comes to registering it?
Note, may only have a bill of sale, no other paperwork...
My neighbor (both in Army) just registered his bike in California. It was born and raised in Bayern, I will ask him.
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:57 AM   #13
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:58 AM   #14
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Same Experince

I bought a 02 R1150GS with 6,700 miles and Michigan title. They inspected VIN and engine number and emission sticker for CA compliance. The only stress was the PO didn't no where the emissions sticker was and how to remove the seat to find it. Everyone exhaled when the seat finally came off and the sticker was revealed. Could have been a deal breaker.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:01 AM   #15
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straight from dmv

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Originally Posted by Addicted2it
I just imported a used motorcycle to California from Arizona and have done a bit of research regarding the paperwork needed to register it here.

E-mail me at addicted2it@sbcglobal.net and I'll tell you what I found out, but I don't remember anything pertaining to odomoter readings.

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The Bottom Line
If you are a California resident and acquire a new car, truck or motorcycle from another state, it must be certified to meet California smog laws in order to be registered here.
Aren’t All Vehicles California Certified?
Not all new vehicles are manufactured to be sold to California residents or businesses. Many manufacturers make vehicles to be sold in the other 49 states. These vehicles (49-State) are made with smog equipment that meets federal emission standards, but not California standards. 50-State or California certified vehicles are made to be sold to California residents.
What Is Considered a New Vehicle?
California law considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer when acquired by a California resident or business to be a new vehicle. This holds true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state. If you acquire a new vehicle from another state, you may not subsequently drive it to accumulate over 7,500 miles to circumvent the law. DMV cannot accept an application to register the vehicle, and you cannot register or operate the vehicle in California.
Exceptions
As usual, there are a few exceptions included in the law. As a California resident or business you may be able to register a 49-State vehicle if you:
  • Obtained it as part of a divorce or inheritance settlement.
  • Purchased it to replace a vehicle stolen while you were using it out of state.
  • Purchased it to replace a vehicle which was destroyed or made inoperative beyond reasonable repair while you were using it out of state.
  • Were on active military duty outside California, and you registered the vehicle in the state of your last military service.
Check the Label
To find out whether a car or truck is California Certified, check the emission label under the hood. For a motorcycle check the headset or frame. The label should read that the vehicle conforms to California regulations, or that it is legal for sale in California.

Does This Apply to Someone Moving to California?
If you are moving to California from another state, you may register a new federally certified vehicle in California if it was first registered by you in your home state, or for military personnel, in your last state of military service. When applying for vehicle registration in California, you must provide evidence of your vehicle’s previous registration and that you were a resident of the other state when you acquired the vehicle.
Vehicles Purchased From Out of the Country
California has special requirements for vehicles imported from other countries (including Canada and Mexico). It may be very costly and in some cases impossible to modify these vehicles to meet California emission requirements and/or federal motor vehicle safety standards. For example, vehicles manufactured to be sold in Europe (gray market vehicles) less than two years old are not legal for registration or use in California.
For More Information Regarding...
  • California residency and vehicle importation laws and requirements, contact the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) Technical Compliance Section at (916) 657-6795, or go to Buying an Out of State Vehicle.
  • The California Smog check program, contact the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) at (800) 952-5210.
  • California smog laws, gray market vehicles, and 49-state vehicles, contact the California Air Resources Board (ARB) at (800) 242-4450, by email at helpline@arb.ca.gov, or visit ARB online.
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