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Old 10-20-2014, 03:31 AM   #1
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Guys I am new to this website and would like to ask for your opinion. I know this question has been asked by many times on this website but in this particular case situation is different. Here is the story,

I am from Pakistan and m member of MAP (Motorcycle Association of Pakistan). Year around we go for different trips e.g. we ride on KaraKuram Highway (KKH), Kashmir, Khunjrab Pass and central Pakistan (desert and plains). Towards northern part of the country heights may reach up to14,000 feet and even above. In summer average temperature stays at 43-45 in plains and roughly 30C at higher altitudes.

Currently, I own a Suzuki GS150 (150CC OHC) and I use it everywhere I go. Reliable small machine, air cooled and its the best locally manufactured (there is no other motorcycle in 150CC all other brands are under 150CC) motorcycle one can get. weighs around 115 KG.

Now I am looking for importing a bike to Pakistan. Now I have shortlisted following 2 bikes:

Honda CRF250L
Suzuki DR650SE

Reason for shortlisting these two are:

  1. Both can handle low octane fuel (in northern areas its common to have bad quality fuel)
  2. CRF is based on CBR engine so I believe I can get essential parts locally
  3. DR650SE I love its simple engine. Its engine seems bigger version of my current Suzuki GS150 engine.
CRF250L seems a good option but here workshops are rare to understand the mechanics of new generation of engines. Furthermore, the closest mechanic which can service CRF250L is around 60 KMs away from my home town.

Personally I feel that DR650SE would work better for me. Simple engine, I can adjust the valves myself and can do other repairs as well. In case of both the bikes i.e. CRF250L and DR650, no part would be available locally and in case of any major repair I would need to import the parts from abroad. But incase of DR650, I can manage its repair and service myself.

regarding DR650 I am concerned about its weight and I feel it might be too heavy; specially downhill on a 4x4 track. During a trip such difficult tracks are around 10% of total distance/tour.

Our last trip we reached at a height of 13,500 Feet and all the bikes lost power but My GS150 reached up to the point where all other bikes (KLR250S, XR250, KLE500) managed to reached but of course with less speed and as its a street bike I was not that comfortable on rough terrain.

There is no highway riding, maximum speed we ride at is 90 KM/H may be sometimes 100+.

Keeping in view the whole scenario, please recommend the bike DR650 or CRF250L.

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Old 10-20-2014, 04:50 AM   #2
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:04 AM   #3
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:15 AM   #4
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:18 AM   #5
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Old 10-20-2014, 10:53 AM   #6
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I'll take a shot.
Both bikes are very capable.
The Suzuki is heavier, but has more power and is carbureted, so gets a nod when questionable cleanliness of fuel is considered.
The Honda will get better fuel mileage, but isn't as easy to adjust valves although that shouldn't be needed too often on the more modern motor.
The cleanliness of fuel might be a problem due to the fuel injection. Could add an extra inline filter that is easy to clean on the trail.
Personally I like the Honda, nothing against the Suzuki which has fantastic aftermarket support, I just like great fuel mileage.
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:02 AM   #7
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I would say the dr650 less to go wrong in the mountains and can be fix with a sinple tool bag
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:40 AM   #8
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Ditch thanks for the reply. I too think that honda is a good option. We r not into serious off-roading. As Honda is made in Thailand, it would be easier to arrange parts.

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Thanks for liking the pics. It's about 14000 feet above sea level. Our bikes lost all the power at that height though jeeps were not that comfortable either.

Personally I like DR, I have one concern regarding DR and that's its weight and specially downhill. During our last trip we had a KLE500 with us and it was an agony for the rider. Unfortunately in my circle of riders and friends there is no DR650 and I can't check myself how heavy it is.

All our locally manufactured bikes are air cooled. Honda CG125 and Suzuki Gs150 is maximum available displacement.

The right choice is very important for me as I won't be able to change this bike in coming many years at least 10 to 15 years. Import duties are too high and an imported Dr650 will cost me around USD 12,500 and a CRF around USD 8,500.
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the kle500 weighs over 400lbs the dr650 is around 330 lbs
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