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Old 08-30-2012, 05:34 PM   #7516
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Re 2 strokes: good points.

Agree about texting. It's prob time to speak with one another.

Re the missing parts: I could be going hyperbolic. Stupid stuff like the bash plate, looks like the tail light is wrong for the year? I know, I know, for my 1K offer (if he even takes it) I'm focusing on silly stuff. He texted me a couple pics. The ignition keyhole looks bigger than normal. But he says it works, and there's a key, so I guess no prob there.

Here's the ad:

http://reading.craigslist.org/mcy/3218756242.html

You're right. It's an hour away. I should just check it out. This is prob a Q for another thread but: what's doing a 4-stroke top end entail? Just buying parts and installing? Or does it have to go out to a specialist?
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:25 PM   #7517
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Hi Brian,

mines just passed 55,000 miles with no problems. Just a minor oil seepage from a gasket.

My 250 did over 75,00, before being written off in an accident and had no engine work done at all.

Both were still on their original clutches.

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Reggie, I heartily agree with you. My '07 is approaching 26.000 miles, runs better than new, and uses no oil at all, no smoke, and starts on the first revolution of the engine. With good maintenance, i expect to get a LOT more miles out of her before touching the engine for any kind of repair, except for maybe stator failure, which has happened once, but covered under the extended warranty, which was cheaper than the repair would have been. Still under that warranty till 4/13.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:21 PM   #7518
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Reggie, I heartily agree with you. My '07 is approaching 26.000 miles, runs better than new, and uses no oil at all, no smoke, and starts on the first revolution of the engine. With good maintenance, i expect to get a LOT more miles out of her before touching the engine for any kind of repair, except for maybe stator failure, which has happened once, but covered under the extended warranty, which was cheaper than the repair would have been. Still under that warranty till 4/13.
Doug
Yep, a well cared for and non abused XT should go for a long long time with no top end needed. I did my top end as I already had to get the jug off to fix an oil leak and my compression was a bit low. I also ended up getting a new cam and rockers as the old ones were worn.

My XT lives a hard life. I do the maintenance as specified by the manual, (I even repacked the head tube bearings at 15k), but the bike gets a mercilous thrashing. I am amazed I have not had to do more to mine considering the hard life it leads. My bike gets more beatings than a red headed stepchild. If the bike had a rev limiter I would be hitting it all the time. So if my XT needs more care than some other XTs, it is just because it gets used hard.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:57 PM   #7519
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I have read the manual, and it sounds straight forward, but are there any details about a clutch change that I should be warned about? I have had the top end apart and a stator change, but never messed with a clutch. What kind of surprises are in store for me?
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:07 PM   #7520
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I have read the manual, and it sounds straight forward, but are there any details about a clutch change that I should be warned about? I have had the top end apart and a stator change, but never messed with a clutch. What kind of surprises are in store for me?
Its relatively straight forward. It was our first time on ours and we survived. My wife did snap one of the bolts holding a spring in, so we replaced all 4. The clutch we got had one plate that was smaller inside diameter and the directions showed this piece we didn't have. I think it was for an earlier year XT, but it still worked on our 06 model. Have a gasket on hand because you will probably be scraping off the old one.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:59 PM   #7521
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Its relatively straight forward. It was our first time on ours and we survived. My wife did snap one of the bolts holding a spring in, so we replaced all 4. The clutch we got had one plate that was smaller inside diameter and the directions showed this piece we didn't have. I think it was for an earlier year XT, but it still worked on our 06 model. Have a gasket on hand because you will probably be scraping off the old one.
Okay, thanks! I am ordering a new gasket in the morning, was already planning on that. Thanks again.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:29 AM   #7522
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Yep, a well cared for and non abused XT should go for a long long time with no top end needed. I did my top end as I already had to get the jug off to fix an oil leak and my compression was a bit low. I also ended up getting a new cam and rockers as the old ones were worn.

My XT lives a hard life. I do the maintenance as specified by the manual, (I even repacked the head tube bearings at 15k), but the bike gets a mercilous thrashing. I am amazed I have not had to do more to mine considering the hard life it leads. My bike gets more beatings than a red headed stepchild. If the bike had a rev limiter I would be hitting it all the time. So if my XT needs more care than some other XTs, it is just because it gets used hard.
Nuggets, thanks for clarifying the loss of compression motivating teardown. Very helpful for tracking longevity.

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Reggie, I heartily agree with you. My '07 is approaching 26.000 miles, runs better than new, and uses no oil at all, no smoke, and starts on the first revolution of the engine. With good maintenance, i expect to get a LOT more miles out of her before touching the engine for any kind of repair, except for maybe stator failure, which has happened once, but covered under the extended warranty, which was cheaper than the repair would have been. Still under that warranty till 4/13.
Doug
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Re 2 strokes: good points.

Agree about texting. It's prob time to speak with one another.

Re the missing parts: I could be going hyperbolic. Stupid stuff like the bash plate, looks like the tail light is wrong for the year? I know, I know, for my 1K offer (if he even takes it) I'm focusing on silly stuff. He texted me a couple pics. The ignition keyhole looks bigger than normal. But he says it works, and there's a key, so I guess no prob there.

Here's the ad:

http://reading.craigslist.org/mcy/3218756242.html

You're right. It's an hour away. I should just check it out. This is prob a Q for another thread but: what's doing a 4-stroke top end entail? Just buying parts and installing? Or does it have to go out to a specialist?
What does "top end" mean to the SELLER is the question. I just pulled the cylinder to replace a jug bottom gasket that started leaking. More details in these two blog posts.
http://kamperbob.com/blog/?p=1841
http://kamperbob.com/blog/?p=1866

Note the factory settings have these critters running lean and therefore hot. For me that means the exhaust valve cover O ring has a life expectancy. Fortunately, that's a cheap fix easily addressed at valve adjustment time. ;)
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Old 09-01-2012, 02:24 PM   #7523
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I seriously doubt the head was replaced or even removed, probably a spark plug or something else minor. I've been thinking of pulling my head on my TTR225 to replace the exhaust seals. It smokes like a clowns bike in a parade when 1st starting when its cold otherwise it runs great. What else should I check/replace if I do pull the head?
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Old 09-04-2012, 06:55 AM   #7524
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Thanks, Blue. The owner texted me and said "No receipts. The prev owner was just doing it to keep maintenence on motor, no issues, just wanted to keep it fresh."

I don't know that much about engines, but this seems like a lot of work, and not something you'd regularly do. (Though I still haven't confirmed whether it was a full top end, or just gasket). Still, I'm leary.
Yea but you also see those adds where someone has a DS and states that they change the oil after every single ride. I know it doesn't take much oil but I'm not changing the oil every day. It seams like some people like working on bikes more than riding them. They are easy to point out by unnecessary maintenance with no miles.

"I ride a lot, put 500 mile on this bike over 5 years. Changed the oil 10 times, adjusted valves 3 times, rebuilt top end last summer"
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:32 PM   #7525
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first post!

Hello fellow XT'ers (and ADV'ers!). This is my first post here, I was hoping to have my xt225 in time to start page 500 but I missed the boat there :)

Anyway, I picked up what looks to be a very gently used 2002 XT225 last Friday. I had to drive 4hrs into Vermont from NY to get it but well worth it.

I'll post pics once I get them online, but so far I'm pretty happy with the little beast. This is my second bike, my first being a wee little TTR125 that I bought early this spring. I've been trail riding a good bit with my wife's uncle, who bought an XT250 this summer.

After reading the first 50 or so pages of this thread, I'm a bit confused as to the success of the popular mods. AFAIK, this bike is bone stock.

First, yesterday I started it up for a little ride around the yard, just trying to get used to the size difference between the XT and the TTR. Once moving, it's really not that different at all.

But, when I started it, I think I let it idle a minute or so too long. While I was riding around the yard at the knuckle-whitening pace of 11mph, I could feel a good deal of heat on my legs. I'm reading that these things are lean from the factory. The only time I experienced something similar was when I was playing with jets on the TTR and had it running very lean (I replaced the PITA stock carb with a much better Mikuni, and I believe started with jet sizes meant for a different model of the same carb).

I just read through a nice thread over on xt225.com about re-jetting:
http://www.xt225.com/forums/ubbthrea...r=33365&page=1

Can anyone here confirm that the '3 turns on the pilot screw' will enrich the mixture, and hopefully cool the bike down a tad? Also, could someone take one of the pictures from that post and point out where the plug is for the pilot screw?

Thanks a ton for any help! I'm amazed at the helpfulness and friendlyness of the community around these cool little bikes, as well as the friendlyness of the entire ADV community. Looking forward to becoming a useful member. Hell, by this time next year, maybe I'll be able to get a ride-report up!
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:47 PM   #7526
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It's in here, sorry don't have time to find it, but take the time to learn how to search the site--go to ask Baldy, blame AceRph forum and find the "how to search" thread. Good luck!
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:18 PM   #7527
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..... pictures ... plug ...for the pilot screw?
4th post
http://www.xt225.com/forums/ubbthrea...=100905&page=1
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:32 PM   #7528
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Awesome! Thank you, exactly what I was looking for. As for the high heat I mentioned above, I think it had to be related to my unintentional, extended warmup time. Tip for noobies to air cooled machines, don't answer your phone while waiting for it to warm up :) I did the warmup properly today at tooled around the yard a bit. Aside from a fall trying to do turn 180 in a really small space at 1mph (forgot to clutch, bike stalled and stopped abruptly) the bike is running and riding quite well. The wet grass tought me a thing or two as well, mainly that my rear tire is ready to be replaced.

Quick question related to riding in general....my driveway is loose gravel. It feels alot like the sand I've been getting used to in the woods (stand up!). It always felt squirrely on the little ttr but not as bad on the XT. Is this just a matter of weight?
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:44 PM   #7529
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J5K,
Are you planning to ride on the streets or just ride trails with it? I have an 02 myself. They're the best ones and they pretty rarre, because they were only made one year.

3 turns out made mine start much easier.

It's a great bike on the trails. I run 50/50 dual sport type tires. They last a long time and I can go about 90 % of the trails that I could with a knobby.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:00 PM   #7530
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