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Old 12-27-2012, 09:51 AM   #8281
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One thin electrical washer.
Iím very familiar with all kinds of mechanical washers but .... Electrical washer?
Is that something Ace or True Value would have in their bins?

Looked 'em up. Found this. Looks too big.


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Old 12-27-2012, 09:53 AM   #8282
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:53 AM   #8283
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I am curious to know what guys are using for needle shims & how thick. Seen lots of mention of them but not that info. Using even a thin a washer on some carbs can be too thick.
All Iíve done so far is the 3 turns & took a hole saw to the pipe. Runs fine here at lower the elevations but will probably do some intake mods to open it up more & bigger jets eventually.
I found no online specs so I took the needle to my local Ace Hardware and fit stainless washers just the right size, ID and OD. I forget the size. I will see next time I go and put it here.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:10 AM   #8284
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I forget the size. I will see next time I go and put it here.
Itís the thickness thatí most important.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:20 AM   #8285
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Thanks to all for your input on putting my bike back to stock. Should receive the carb soon(Sat.) Will post with results next week after install. Has anybody used the Keintech adjustable Pilot Screw? How did it work for you?
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:25 AM   #8286
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Thanks to all for your input on putting my bike back to stock. Should receive the carb soon(Sat.) Will post with results next week after install. Has anybody used the Keintech adjustable Pilot Screw? How did it work for you?
I had one on my klr. It's pretty much set and leave it alone. But it is handy when you are adjusting. If yours works, please let us know. I'd like to add one.

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Old 12-27-2012, 11:28 AM   #8287
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Itís the thickness thatí most important.
They are pretty thin. Proportional to the diameter, if you will. I have to lick my finger to get the washer to stick to it to pick it up from a flat surface. That thin.

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Old 12-27-2012, 11:36 AM   #8288
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They are pretty thin. Proportional to the diameter, if you will. I have to lick my finger to get the washer to stick to it to pick it up from a flat surface. That thin.
Hmm...
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:17 PM   #8289
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After putting on the mini high bends, I ran out of cable slack. I think that any higher and you would have to put on longer cables and maybe brake line. Maybe speedo cable. I think these bars are close to the limit of the stock cables.
yeah i got two inch riser and i dont recall if any slack after that...but two inch worked great, big diff.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:42 PM   #8290
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Itís the thickness thatí most important.
"That's what my old lady keeps saying".
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:25 PM   #8291
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I was really surprised at how capable my new (used 2001) XT225 is at climbing really steep terrain.
So far I've made every single hill I've attempted.
The picture does not do it justice at just how steep that hill was.
No slipping, sliding, rear tire just grips and pushes.

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Old 12-27-2012, 08:59 PM   #8292
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I am curious to know what guys are using for needle shims & how thick. Seen lots of mention of them but not that info. Using even a thin a washer on some carbs can be too thick.
All Iíve done so far is the 3 turns & took a hole saw to the pipe. Runs fine here at lower the elevations but will probably do some intake mods to open it up more & bigger jets eventually.
On Mikuni carbs with adjustable needles, the slots are 1mm apart. When I set up the carb on my (wife's) XT, I made a shim from a nylon R/C aircraft control horn. It is 1.5 mm thick, of the equivalent of a slot and a half if these bikes had adjustable needles which they don't.

You can probably find suitable small washers at a hardware store- take a micrometer or caliper with you to check thickness. Or you could order them here: http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Jet_N...12__P10478.cfm

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Old 12-28-2012, 04:36 AM   #8293
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I was looking at the Mini High Bend bars on the linked site, and I also noticed the ATV Sport Bend are even higher. The Mini's are 4.50" and the ATV's are 6.25" high.

I wonder if the ATV ones might be good, or if they would be too high. Has anybody tried them?
GlennR, I'm running renthal Atv bars on my xt and I ran into a problem with the bar ends... I'm not sure if all Atv bars are this way, but mine had the reinforcing inner sleeve (or thicker diameter tube) extend into the area where the bark buster expansion bolt would normally go. This took a lot of modifying but I finally got the bars to work. As for height, I love the way it allows me to comfortably stand. The problem with going to high will be modifying the cable lengths for throttle, brake, clutch...
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:43 AM   #8294
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GlennR, I'm running renthal Atv bars on my xt and I ran into a problem with the bar ends... I'm not sure if all Atv bars are this way, but mine had the reinforcing inner sleeve (or thicker diameter tube) extend into the area where the bark buster expansion bolt would normally go. This took a lot of modifying but I finally got the bars to work. As for height, I love the way it allows me to comfortably stand. The problem with going to high will be modifying the cable lengths for throttle, brake, clutch...
Correction renthal = pro taper
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Old 12-28-2012, 08:59 AM   #8295
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... suitable small washers ... Or you could order them here: http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Jet_N...12__P10478.cfm
Thanks, Kingbee, thatís what I was looking for. Been years since I put a shim from a kit in a Keihin carb & couldnít remember how thick it was. I only remembered that any thin washer that I measured was considerably thicker.
Per your link the shims are .5mm or just a hair under .02Ē, (0.01968498Ē), thick.
Oftentimes you donít want to make much of a change to the needle height. Surprised that you went up 1.5mm.
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