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Old 11-17-2006, 11:26 AM   #16
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all great advice

big thing is just take this first one easy. There is a lot to learn and everyone started at some point. Don't even worry about the start. Heck if it is a really hot race I don't even rush off. Just let the knuckleheads go. They come back over the next 2 hours.

It's just a trail ride, if you go out to hard you'll do what my buddy Mike did on his first one.

Me: Now Mike this is a 12 mile loop and it's 90 degrees and 60% humidity out here today. Just go ride. Don't go getting into a race. You blow your wad in the first half of the first lap then you're dead. You'll never make the whole race.

Mike: Roger that, I'm just gonna ride and get this one under my belt as experience.

Me: Most excellent my man. Have a good time.

He starts the race and actually beats me into the first corner. WTF!! He is in about 4th and I'm right behind him. I go after him right away in the first couple of corners in this grass section. He closes the door on me the first time and I give him the benefit of the doubt. The second time and I know he is riding WAAAAY over his head. Nerf him a little bit going by to show him 2 can play at that game. Long story short. I hit the woods in 1st. Mike is toast 3 miles into the first lap. I finish in 3rd. Mike only finishes one lap and behind my wife on her TTR 125.

Moral of the story, Mike would have had a better time and learned a lot more if he had stuck to the plan. Instead he had about 400 yds of glory and a miserable ride.

Harscrambles are a hoot. Relax, have fun, stay hydrated and it will be a great experience.

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Old 11-17-2006, 11:32 AM   #17
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For some reason this story will be on "Repeat" in my head tomorrow....
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Old 11-17-2006, 12:57 PM   #18
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Waving a green flag in front of a bunch of motorcycle riders is like waving a red cape in front of a bull. I can't count the # of times I've had a "strategy", that, the second the flag waves goes right out the window


ps: Good Luck and have fun. The best strategy is to use your head.
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Old 11-17-2006, 04:07 PM   #19
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A couple of crushed up asprin in your Camelback helps with the heat.
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:01 AM   #20
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A couple of crushed up asprin in your Camelback helps with the heat.
Whats the theory behind this technique?
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:23 AM   #21
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As a novice harescrambler myself, the one piece of advice I can give you is: LOOK DOWN THE TRAIL!

I find this the hardest thing to remember to do. It's real easy to focus too close to your front wheel. I have to keep reminding myself to get my head and eyes up.
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Old 11-18-2006, 02:47 PM   #22
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Whats the theory behind this technique?
Asprin thins your blood.
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South Africa, Swaziland, Botswana ride report
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Great CanAm Tour
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Old 11-18-2006, 03:26 PM   #23
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Well

how'd ya do???

I was thinking about you as I was getting my training ride in today. 5 hours of woods riding both days each weekend on top of running and lifting to get ready for Dakar.

If you want to get serious about your racing you need to start workingout
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Old 11-18-2006, 03:44 PM   #24
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T, lots of good stuff here, I raced AMA, district 17 for years, 30+ class, read what the rest are telling you, all good.

You are racing a FTR race I'm sure, right? One thing, and remember this, it may take a few races to perfect it, but believe me, they all do this. After the start, and your heart-rate is 5000, they will run you into a bottleneck, always, again always they will do this. My lesson is: dont waste time there, so many riders sit and look and wait and watch what is going on there. Be prepared that this is going to happen, pick a different line around it, go close to another rider (dont hit him with your bark-busters, not to hard anyway), go over another rider (not to hurt him) but, get around it quick, this will be the most important part of the race. DONT WAIT. So many new riders are timid and wait, you will lose the most valuable time of the race right here if you wait. Beleive me, I raced them for years.

I hope this helps.
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Old 11-19-2006, 07:16 AM   #25
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So you are probably a bit sore now. Re-Hydrate today and take your 400mg of advil 4x today. But most importanatly.... ....GET YOUR RIDE REPORT UP!!!!

(I'm living vicariously though you since our race season is over out here for all intents and purposes.)
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:43 AM   #26
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:02 PM   #27
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He can't

post yet. His hands are still too cramped up to type.

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Old 11-20-2006, 04:11 AM   #28
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I am alive.. Made 3 laps (9 mile loop)...feel like I got hit with a bat repeatedly..

Theme of the race "Do girls wear pink just to rub it in ?"....

report coming within couple of days...
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:58 AM   #29
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I am alive.. Made 3 laps (9 mile loop)...feel like I got hit with a bat repeatedly..

Theme of the race "Do girls wear pink just to rub it in ?"....

report coming within couple of days...
Bravo....now it begins.
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