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Old 12-09-2012, 09:38 AM   #6271
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I think the KLR looks better in "burnt black" but I also preffer the look of the pre 08' models...more off-road look to them. Maybe someone will make a replacement front console for the newer models that looks more off-road...someone, anyone Also needs more power straight out of the box without the 685/705 upgrades. I think Kawasaki could put more power into it without raising the price very much...maybe they're too lazy since it's a pretty popular bike...not very popular when your fully loaded and trying to pass a transport
Agreed on the pre '08 looks, but the '08+ bikes have a few features that would be nice including heavier forks, upgraded cooling etc. I think if I was told that I could only have one bike for the rest of my days the KLR would be it.

As far as power I have have had my bike fully loaded and never had trouble passing when I want to. Not the get up and go of my BMW but still does the job I want. Less horsepower but great gas mileage and long term engine reliability make it a winner. I am currently looking at doing upgrades to mine in anticipation of a future long ride.

We went to the bike show in Minni a couple years ago and you could buy a brand new 2011 KLR from the show for $4700 all in and out the door. Getting one brand new for $6200 is still a bargain in the adventure motorcycle world today.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:49 AM   #6272
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I think the KLR looks better in "burnt black" but I also preffer the look of the pre 08' models...more off-road look to them. Maybe someone will make a replacement front console for the newer models that looks more off-road...someone, anyone Also needs more power straight out of the box without the 685/705 upgrades. I think Kawasaki could put more power into it without raising the price very much...maybe they're too lazy since it's a pretty popular bike...not very popular when your fully loaded and trying to pass a transport
what transport? your supposed to take the secondary backroads and drop down a gear....no transports or big RV's

I guess going on Hwy 11 north of Lake Superior you may need to. With a 16T CS sprocket, loaded, uphill, headwind, ya it could use some more power, but with the engine longevity, and fuel mileage, reliability, I am satisfied with taking it a bit slower.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:56 AM   #6273
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[QUOTE=dryden_rider_54;20211083] I think if I was told that I could only have one bike for the rest of my days the KLR would be it.

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Its all you need really. I have to admire the bike that I can ride single track bush trail to get my minnow trap, and 2 days later its parked near the skyscrapers at the Excel Energy center.

I do like the KTM 990/950 but the fuel mileage is important to me. I am thinking I can go almost twice as far on $$$ fuel with the KLR.(2 KLR's $50 to fill and 450KM distance= 900 km for 50$ on one bike under ideal cond) How is the MPG on the BMW800's?

I can't do any more test rides on those 950's........( I will want one for sure)
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:06 AM   #6274
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what transport? your supposed to take the secondary backroads and drop down a gear....no transports or big RV's

I guess going on Hwy 11 north of Lake Superior you may need to. With a 16T CS sprocket, loaded, uphill, headwind, ya it could use some more power, but with the engine longevity, and fuel mileage, reliability, I am satisfied with taking it a bit slower.
That's funny, that's the exact spot and conditions I was thinking of when I mentioned that ...from experience!
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:06 PM   #6275
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How is the MPG on the BMW800's?
mileage on the F800 is pretty good. Not as great as the KLR but very close.

Downside is mandatory premium fuel.

Because it gets good mileage it is not the cost, but on our Alaska trip this summer there was a few occasions where it was not available. I am sure there are a few other remote areas that that i could have the same problem.

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Old 12-09-2012, 01:43 PM   #6276
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mileage on the F800 is pretty good. Not as great as the KLR but very close.

Downside is mandatory premium fuel.

Because it gets good mileage it is not the cost, but on our Alaska trip this summer there was a few occasions where it was not available. I am sure there are a few other remote areas that that i could have the same problem.

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Does it detonate badly when you don't have enough octane?
My 950 does. If the fuel isn't good I can't lug it and am forced to gear down on hills etc.
I find at the lower volume gas stations I'm better off to fill with regular as the premium is usually worse.

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Old 12-09-2012, 01:54 PM   #6277
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Does it detonate badly when you don't have enough octane?
My 950 does. If the fuel isn't good I can't lug it and am forced to gear down on hills etc.
I find at the lower volume gas stations I'm better off to fill with regular as the premium is usually worse.

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Have not run it for any length of time without premium or octane booster with reg / prem mix. Have heard some horror stories of 800GS and reg / low oct poor quality fuel. It (F800GS) is a great bike but would not be my choice for a RTW ride.


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Old 12-09-2012, 04:06 PM   #6278
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I recall the dealer mentioning regular could be used, believe there was an option to change the fuel mapping go run on regular. Though I did not hear of anyone making that change.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:59 PM   #6279
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I recall the dealer mentioning regular could be used, believe there was an option to change the fuel mapping go run on regular. Though I did not hear of anyone making that change.
Yes, you can have it remapped. I've run mine (not remapped) on regular when hightest wasn't available. No detonation, just reduced mileage. By about the same percentage as the increased cost of the gas.

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Old 12-09-2012, 06:49 PM   #6280
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I recall the dealer mentioning regular could be used, believe there was an option to change the fuel mapping go run on regular. Though I did not hear of anyone making that change.
That is what the dealer told me too but if you read Naomi and Alberto's trip to Arentina they blew the engines in 2 800s that was blamed on low octane fuel. BMW did not recognize any fuel mapping that was talked about in Canada

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Old 12-09-2012, 06:55 PM   #6281
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That is what the dealer told me too but if you read Naomi and Alberto's trip to Arentina they blew the engines in 2 800s that was blamed on low octane fuel. BMW did not recognize any fuel mapping that was talked about in Canada

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Read to the end and find out that BMW Victoria came through for them, even though Mother BMW didn't.
All ended well about that....
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:19 PM   #6282
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Read to the end and find out that BMW Victoria came through for them, even though Mother BMW didn't.
All ended well about that....
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Yes I read the whole report but I think it was more good will on behalf of Island BMW - BMW Canada after all the publicity among the bike world than anything.

Point I was trying to make is that the fuel mapping was not really a sanctioned BMW thing until this year in intro if the F700GS. It seemed to be something unique to some Canadian dealers as neither BMW europe or USA recognized it


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Old 12-09-2012, 07:21 PM   #6283
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Yes I read the whole report but I think it was more good will on behalf of Island BMW - BMW Canada after all the publicity among the bike world than anything.

Point I was trying to make is that the fuel mapping was not really a sanctioned BMW thing until this year in intro if the F700GS. It seemed to be something unique to some Canadian dealers as neither BMW europe or USA recognized it


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You're so full of ... Good stuff!.

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Old 12-09-2012, 07:22 PM   #6284
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Does anybody carry Octane Boost with them on trips that will reach areas that don't have Premium? Would work in a pinch if needed?

My 530 runs fine on Regular but not so good on 10% ethanol...almost every station in Utah had the mix in every hose including Premium...which I bought all the time thinking that they didn't add it to Premium but they did. Finally found a station that had no-ethanol gas and the bike ran better after that.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:27 PM   #6285
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Does anybody carry Octane Boost with them on trips that will reach areas that don't have Premium? Would work in a pinch if needed?

My 530 runs fine on Regular but not so good on 10% ethanol...almost every station in Utah had the mix in every hose including Premium...which I bought all the time thinking that they didn't add it to Premium but they did. Finally found a station that had no-ethanol gas and the bike ran better after that.
Unless you're pushing envelopes,
I can't see it being an issue.
Going uphill with a high compression unit,.. just back off on the throttle... or gear down...?
Has always worked for me, since I was 18... "When I wasn't so smark."
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