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Old 11-23-2006, 12:38 AM   #1
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Painting a Bike Flat Black

I painted my TDM with some flat black. It was some rattle can stuff from Home Depot (Painter's Touch is the brand I think). I'm not happy with the results. The paint has more of a primer like finish that stains really easily (gas, tree sap, etc.). It looked good at first but now looks bad after only a few weeks.

I want to repaint but I'm hoping for better results. I don't need a perfect finish, it's a rat bike after all, but I would like better results then my first attempt.

What have you all used successfully? Would some sort of clear coat be needed possibly? Thanks for any advise.
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Old 11-23-2006, 01:39 AM   #2
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here's some suggestions.
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:32 AM   #3
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Most the the flats I've messed with on cars did seem like primer too. You might want to try a matte black paint?
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:37 AM   #4
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You might try using a gloss black and then topping with a satin, matte, or flat clear. My neighbor is a painter, has done this, but not with rattlecan stuff. If I get a chance this weekend, I'll catch him and ask specifics.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:09 AM   #5
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A guy on a board I frequent had his bike stolen and the thieves did a shit job of spraying it black. When the bike was recovered. he decided to spray it flat black. It looks nice. He used a Krylon Matte clear coat over the flat black. The link to the thread with pics is below. Not a heck of a lot of info on the specifics of the paint job, but I'm sure if you ask he would tell you. There's pics of the bike and it looks sharp

http://www.riderforums.com/showthrea...5&page=1&pp=15
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:13 PM   #6
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When I painted my smoker I wanted to go with flat black. I also wanted to try the real way to paint a bike, ya know, paint gun, air compressor, reducer, hardener, urethane paint, etc... The guy at Napa said Martin Senior doesn't make any flat colors because all of their one step paints have a clear coat built in that rises to the top when it sets up.

What you could do is paint it with the gloss black, than hit it evenly with a 1000 grit wet sand. Then run over it with a wet cloth to collect the particles. That would give you the petrol resistance and hardness of urethane without the shitty look of rattlecan.
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:27 PM   #7
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Try a satin black, a little more of a "wipeable" finish.

For a rat bike... stick with rattle cans. As mentioned above you could gloss coat then burnish with either brass wool or scotchbrite as well...
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:00 PM   #8
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Maybe you need to Try BedLiner. paint, the spray type at the shop brings better result (super dupper strong, flexible and long lasting.) than the one you aply with a roller or even a small can you get at the store...

For example Here is Sasha's old bike with the bedliner tank treament.


On another side note since 99,9% of the stolen bikes get painted Flat black maybe the cops will be more drone to stop you for no reason (At least were I live I notice that pattern), no big deal since you have all the proper papers, but will be a waste of time none the less.

to avoid the bike from looking to "STolen" you can alway aply new stickers and badges to the tank so it looks a little more "factory"
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:55 AM   #9
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Thanks for the great suggestions. I think I'm going to go with the matte clear coat over the flat blat except I'm going to go for the spray on bed liner stuff on the tank. Thanks again for the excellent advise.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:14 AM   #10
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Old 11-25-2006, 11:09 PM   #11
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Why go flat black when you can go flat camo? If you're really cool, don't even mask the tires when you spray.


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Old 11-27-2006, 09:33 AM   #12
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The Black Brute is a former 1998 BMW R1100GS with ABS and heated handlebars, modified with:
-30 liter R1150GS Adventure tank
-B-Beak by B-Art
-matte black rear mudguard
-indicator bracket by Kaspar

With the following bedlinered parts, courtesy of KCN:
-tank
-B-Beak
-footpeg plates
-rear carrier + passenger grip
-valve covers
-cut down original screen
-front fork
-side panels
And the following powdercoated parts:
-both footpegs
-brake pedal
-gear shift pedal

Modifications already present on the previous bike:
-Wunderlich Ergo seat
-Wunderlich side stand extender
-MIP-200 Intercom
-Touratech/Acerbis handguards with removable spoilers
-Throttle Rocker I
-Caterpillar O-ring throttle lock
-Touratech Hardparts
-Touratech Steering Lock Protector
-Showa shocks with Hyperpro progressive springs
-Pillion Top Case by Lucas
-City cases
-Touratech Locking Oil Filler Cap
-Touratech Side Panels [originally red, now bedlinered]
-ABS Kill Switch [special modification to switch off ABS while riding]
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:42 AM   #13
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I did the rattle can bed liner stuff to the tank. I like it so much I'm doing the rest of the paint too. Thanks again for all the great ideas and pics. I'll post pics when I get 'er done.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:27 AM   #14
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I did the rattle can bed liner stuff to the tank. I like it so much I'm doing the rest of the paint too. Thanks again for all the great ideas and pics. I'll post pics when I get 'er done.


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Old 12-27-2006, 11:57 PM   #15
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Okay, it took longer than expected but here it is:
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