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Old 12-20-2006, 11:41 PM   #16
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Ive noticed that mine only really pings when it starts to get hot - she HATES being in traffic too...... wait maybe thats it....

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Old 12-21-2006, 01:49 AM   #17
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My newly purchased/used GS1150 pinged a lot when I first started riding it (it had 50000 kms on it). I was going to get some work done, then one weekend I drove it about 800 kms at a good rate of speed (150-160 km/hr) through some high mountain passes and the pipes turned real blue and more pinging. Carboned up I guess???
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Old 12-21-2006, 01:58 AM   #18
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Maybe this will help????

Try a good dose of Seafoam fuel treatment. This stuff works magic on carbon deposits and cleaning up the entire fuel system. Peace.
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:33 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by paddythesmith
OK, I'm confused. What does CCP stand for, and it looks as though the jumper is hooked up different from the stocker 'relay' in at least one spot. ...
CCP = Cat code plug . Different types, fitted from the factory to suit each bike. It alters the fuelling map slightly. You can also get a plug to to help the bike run on bad/low octane fuel that you get in eastern/poor countries.

If it had the samelinks as the original plug, what would be the point of changing it

Even if your bike runs ok, you should still give it a try. On some bikes it makes a huge difference, on others no change.

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Old 12-21-2006, 08:04 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by Bill the Duck
I was going to say look up my thread "Pinging like a mofo", but it would be pretty much a repeat of what's been posted here, except for the water torture and RxP. (Sea foam and Techron were also recommended.)

I did a half-bottle of RxP in 8 gallons of gas, followed by a 200 mile spirited high rpm ride. Pinging down to original levels. Which they all do.
02 1150gs

Tried: OVAD, high octane gas, CCP, tune/retune/reretune/tuneagain, techron, retarding the timing...didn't do the water torture, but frequently (daily) did the Italian Tune Up. Techs at local shop swore the engine was fine.

Pinged from the day I got it until the day I traded it at 37K miles. Pinged any time I opened up the throttle hard even in the meat of the powerband.

Not sure if I just had a lemon, but that damned thing pinged like a mofo and really pissed me off when I got the "they all do that" from the dealer.
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Old 12-21-2006, 08:11 AM   #21
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My '02 1150 was completely cured by the cam chain tensioner.
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Old 12-21-2006, 08:28 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by BeemerBill
My '02 1150 was completely cured by the cam chain tensioner.
I did the cam chain tensioner, but not until about a month after the RxP treatment. If you're not a wrench, the $8 RxP is a good alternative to the $140 or so that the cam chain tensioner costs installed. And the high RPM ride was worth doing in its own right.

Having said that, the tensioner did change the startup noises from the unholy clatter of dead adventurer's bones from hell to a nice purring VROOOM!
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:03 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by Voltar
As a 1984 Electrical Engineer graduate (with honors I may add) from Texas A&M University I can, with qualifications, state that is a pretty crappy design for a relay.
But look what you can charge for a cleverly disguised jumper
Old enough to know better....
Young enough to try it again
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:53 PM   #24
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I'd just turn up the IPod!

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Old 12-21-2006, 03:30 PM   #25
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'00 GS The new tensioner didn't help the pinging at all. Quieter at startup and less knocking when it gets hot ,so the update is still worthwhile.
Normally the pinging isn't a big problem, but when riding at high altitudes , it's down right infuriating. For all intensive purposes it's a speed governor on my bike. Even over 6k in 4th or 5th ,the dam bike just will not pull past 90mph.
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Old 12-21-2006, 04:42 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Steptoe
Try this lnk in place of the CCP relay ( if you've one fitted)

The cost is pennies, takes a few seconds. So try it before spending lots of your hard earned cash.

I know i've posted this before -
But don't think the real bmw relay is anything special - here's whats inside

Mr. Steptoe,

what bike is this? I can't assume that this would work on any model GS.

give us a break know how thick Yanks are

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Old 12-21-2006, 04:46 PM   #27
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and, do we have a resource anywhere that explains the different mapping options?

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Old 12-21-2006, 10:20 PM   #28
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Mapping options

I've done alot of digging, and there seems to be no real listing of BMWs maps buried in the motronic. I can tell you steptoes mod transformed my 03 GSA. They don't ALL do that anymore!

I found a product that some UK GSers have used (bbpower chip), and the instruction sheet seems to indicate several different settings possible via jumper, but I haven't tried em, so can't be sure. Makes me wonder if the product is mostly just a jumper too! Once I saw the steptoe mod worked so well I quit thinking about it. here is the info for those who wish to pursue it.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:56 PM   #29
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Here is a compilation of BMW factory info about the different coding plugs, but you know what? There is 1 combination left not listed on this chart, so I did a little more research.

In case you do not see it - there are 8 possible ways to connect the common pin 30, with the three other pins.

   1)  30   --
   2)  30   86
   3)  30        87
   4)  30   86   87
   5)  30             87a
   6)  30   86        87a
   7)  30        87   87a
   8)  30   86   87   87a
One of the 8 possible combinations isn't listed in the chart above.

A connection between pins 30, 86, and 87a

It is listed by BMW as 'Special Plug', and is part number 71 60 7 659 547

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Old 12-21-2006, 11:07 PM   #30
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so which combo is Steptoe showing us here?

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