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Old 04-20-2011, 02:53 PM   #181
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I tried, really I did.

Several approaches were attempted.

I used the screw driver from the kit with the handle removed along with the pliers.

Then I tried a flat driver from the screw gun and a small ratchet that takes these hex bits.

Then I used a driver from an Xcelite kit, sans handle with Vice Grip attached.

Was unable to budge the jet, but from the brass debris found on the several driver tips, if the jet wasn't plugged before it will be now.

Geez! Do ya have to pull the engine to get this thing out?

I may try removing the airbox and see if I can get a long driver on it from above with enough down pressure to break it free.

Aaaaargh! I'm leaving for a long trip in four days and would prefer to not have a troublesome clutch.

Anyone else had problems getting this bugger out who could offer any advice?

Just to be clear, the issue is unscrewing it, not the more common matter of getting it out of the hole after being unscrewed. That, I was prepared for with toothpick and matchstick.

Thanks!

While installing the new Slave last night I went in for the oil jet to the same results...could NOT budge it. There was oil on evrything I used to get it out so I guess it aint plugged...will try again this weekend when I change oil....
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:17 PM   #182
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I had a veritable plethora of guitar strings bestowed upon me today and will go after it when I get home from work.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:19 PM   #183
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While installing the new Slave last night I went in for the oil jet to the same results...could NOT budge it. There was oil on evrything I used to get it out so I guess it aint plugged...will try again this weekend when I change oil....
This made me think how trying to remove it with the engine hot might help. I would guess the aluminum will expand more/faster than the brass.

As for the oil on everything, the plug is on the source side, I think. From there the oil goes through the orifice to the clutch shaft. Oil being there may not be indicative of the orifice being open.

Someone correct me if I've got this wrong.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:30 PM   #184
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As for the oil on everything, the plug is on the source side, I think. From there the oil goes through the orifice to the clutch shaft. Oil being there may not be indicative of the orifice being open.
I agree with you. In fact, oil sitting on the plug side of the jet may very well indicate a clogged jet. If the jet is open, the oil should drop out of the well, through the jet, and into the clutch rod channel. I found the well full of oil and my jet was plugged.

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Old 04-20-2011, 11:49 PM   #185
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Question tight oil jet

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how did you loosen your jet "just a screw driver by hand" mine is TIGHT i'm worried it might strip the slot.

what scew driver you use (pic)
ktm tool kit one ?
extra long handled one ?
impact with a long bit ?

stop panicking i got it

what ways you get your jet out

A: vacuum cleaner (means i have to empty it because the wife didn't i bet)
B:
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:04 AM   #186
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I've found the best tool for R&Ring jets such as these to be a #4 or #5 hollow ground gunsmith screwdriver. If you installed the jet properly last time, it shouldn't be more than just snug in its threads, but the gunsmith screw drivers fit the slot perfectly and give you maximum surface contact with the soft brass jet.

The best way to remove the oil jet, after it is unthreaded, is one of these slot screw starters. The spring loaded tip grips the slot in the jet and allows it to be lifted out quickly and easily.



A .010" steel guitar string works good to clean out the rather small hole in the OEM "30" jet. This photo shows the size of the stream of oil that is required to keep your clutch alive. Be judicious in the task of cleaning it.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:04 AM   #187
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guys
how did you loosen your jet "just a screw driver by hand" mine is TIGHT i'm worried it might strip the slot.

what scew driver you use (pic)
ktm tool kit one ?
extra long handled one ?
impact with a long bit ?
I used a hex drive tip, pressing it in with my finger while turning it with a 1/4" wrench. Then extract it with a matchstick.

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Old 04-21-2011, 12:16 AM   #188
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ok cool thanks guys all out & cleaning
thanks for the pics CP

FWIW i left my Oberon clutch slave , sprocket & chain on. only remover sprocket cover.

first time its been done 4,600klm there was oil above jet too so guessing its blocked.

i may as well do the lot while fitting CJ's extender clutch res cooler.

mine has a hair size hole sounds right ? i placed my jet in a hose end on a large syringe & squirted clutch fluid through looked like a flow as in your pic.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:16 AM   #189
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guys
how did you loosen your jet "just a screw driver by hand" mine is TIGHT i'm worried it might strip the slot.

what scew driver you use (pic)
ktm tool kit one ?
extra long handled one ?
impact with a long bit ?

stop panicking i got it

what ways you get your jet out

A: vacuum cleaner (means i have to empty it )
B:
I use a Q-tip to get the screw out, I think I had to remove some of the fuzz and put some grease on it, but it worked well.
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:15 AM   #190
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all done

i flushed my clutch line when i fitted the Oberon clutch slave at a guess 300klm ago. it's amazing how quick the fluid goes black.

now fitting other bling
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:46 PM   #191
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my clutch doesn't disengage all the way... Is this a plugged jet or air in my slave? Not sure where to start.
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my clutch doesn't disengage all the way... Is this a plugged jet or air in my slave? Not sure where to start.
Remove the outer clutch cover and watch the pressure plate as you pull the clutch lever. It should move proportionally to the lever. If not you may have a bad slave cylinder, master cylinder, or air in the clutch line.
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:29 PM   #193
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my clutch doesn't disengage all the way... Is this a plugged jet or air in my slave? Not sure where to start.
Mine would nearly disengage, but still drag some. I flushed, and bled the system, and the problem was cured.
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:21 PM   #194
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my clutch doesn't disengage all the way... Is this a plugged jet or air in my slave? Not sure where to start.
Just do both. I'm sure Pyndon recommended in his thread that the clutch be bled with every 6000 or 7000 km service, as he thought there was a close link to the slave longevity and bleeding the fluid regularly. Easy enough, check the oil jet and flush the system routinely and it'l save you heartache.
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Old 04-27-2011, 02:08 PM   #195
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OK--Got the jet out on my 2010 Supermoto 990 R and there definitely is NOT a thru hole in it at all. I see the pinhole started in the hollow side but it is NOT drilled thru. I tried poking wire and pressure air hose. Plus I see the brass is not drilled thru. Now what?
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