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Old 06-14-2012, 09:59 PM   #5596
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Got to play with the bike a bit today. My buddy isn't the best of photographers...





Nice pics considering they are action shots.
I think your friend did a pretty decent job.
You look good.
You might want to consider some protective gear.
Don't want to see you suffer any major injuries.
Not saying that you're a bad rider. Obviously you're not, but shit happens.
Mechanical failure can happen (subframe bolts do break on the KLR) or something in the road/trail could cause you to down.
I was downed once when my front tire caught a tree root coming out of a whoop.
I recently broke my fibula despite wearing knee high motocross boots.
However, if it wasn't for the boots, I would have had compound fractures of both the tibia and fibula.
And you'll get bad road rash wearing shorts and a T-Shirt for sure.

I did the drill through subframe bolt upgrade.
It's a bitch drilling it and takes a while, but well worth it.
If you keep the drill bit oiled and cool, it won't dull as fast and will do the job just fine.
EagleMike will give you two bits. One small and one large.
Start with the small one until through, then go to the large one.
Make sure you keep your carb covered so no metal bits get in it.
I covered the carb and actually used a vacuum during the drilling to minimize the issue.
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:26 PM   #5597
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We're working on protective gear, however I ride like that all the time. If I get messed up it's because of my own doing. My home town is very tolerant of anything with a motor and wheels, be it bike, trike, or quad

Helmet is NOT optional to me, at least protect my pretty face

I'm not going to get fully dressed up for a stroll, I'm more than confident enough I'm not going to do anything stupid (although jumping with road tires is pushing it quite a bit, hoping to change that soon). Very likely going to upgrade the subframe bolts to grade 8 or higher, there is a hardware store in town where I tend to splurge on stuff like that all the time
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:56 AM   #5598
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Nice pics considering they are action shots.
I think your friend did a pret in it..

RandoCommando, thank you for the link to Clayton's story in your signature. I just read it. Wow... Thank you for the link.

Required reading, indeed. Thx
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Old 06-15-2012, 02:35 AM   #5599
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A bit OT but as the topic of the upper subframe bolt was mentioned.
The ones that come with the Motec crash bars are 10.8 grade, and I am lead to believe that these are about the strongest that you can get.
Is there that much strain that these break as well? Has it happened to anybody?



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Old 06-15-2012, 04:46 AM   #5600
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A bit OT but as the topic of the upper subframe bolt was mentioned.
The ones that come with the Motec crash bars are 10.8 grade, and I am lead to believe that these are about the strongest that you can get.
Is there that much strain that these break as well? Has it happened to anybody?



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It's not that there is that much strain ordinarily; but there can be considering load, terrain and riding habits (see above jumping man), but rather the "stock" set up is a two smaller bolt system. Drilling through the sub-frame and using one longer, stronger bolt lessens the chance of catastrophic failure and adds considerable strength.
Yes mine did pull out on one side but was able to complete the drill through without any problem for the fix.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:30 AM   #5601
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Please take pics and post the progression for all to see.
I'm interested in seeing your restoration start to finish.
Grats and thanks
That's on the list. Along with a few other things
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:49 AM   #5602
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Got to play with the bike a bit today. My buddy isn't the best of photographers...





I've never seen a KLR that high off the ground. Like playing with a sharp stick, fun till someone gets their eye poked out.
On the other hand, you go for it, killer kick a** pictures. It brings back an old saying:

"Those who can, Do. Those who can't, Teach".
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:15 AM   #5603
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I see many, many broken parts in your future. My predictions include the following:

1. Adios license plate
2. Adios fork seals (and rear shock, depending on mileage)
3. As mentioned above- subframe bolts
4. Adios plastic skid "plate". Hopefully, the drain plug doesn't go with it.
...

Even with my lower body weight (~165#) and upgraded suspension, my KLR completely bottoms out on stuff like that.

But have fun.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:00 AM   #5604
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Got a bad knee these days so I haven't had my '06 more than 8-10 inches off the ground. Occasionally got my "00 2-2.5 feet off the ground & upon landing there would sometimes be a horrific screech that I couldn't figgure out. One day I was looking at my bike & noticed the forks were sticking up about 2 inches through the triple clap. Light bulb went off "hey maybe that was the screech I heard on those jumps?"
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:16 AM   #5605
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I see many, many broken parts in your future. My predictions include the following:

1. Adios license plate
2. Adios fork seals (and rear shock, depending on mileage)
3. As mentioned above- subframe bolts
4. Adios plastic skid "plate". Hopefully, the drain plug doesn't go with it.
...

Even with my lower body weight (~165#) and upgraded suspension, my KLR completely bottoms out on stuff like that.

But have fun.
We shall remedy these issues with time. I'm still amazed at how well the suspension soaked up the landings, but it still bottomed out. Not as hard as some of my other ATV's though.

This thing was never taken offroad before I got my hands on it, everything was in awesome shape (minus plastics) when I took it home so I'd imagine there's a lot of mileage on the suspension still.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:27 AM   #5606
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This thing was never taken offroad before I got my hands on it, everything was in awesome shape (minus plastics) when I took it home so I'd imagine there's a lot of mileage on the suspension still.
Hopefully, but the stock suspension isn't really meant for jumps and awesome offroad fun. I'd expect it to die a horrible leaky death in short order

Good news is it can be rebuilt, giving you some customization, or go aftermarket for even more customization.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:17 AM   #5607
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so I'd imagine there's a lot of mileage on the suspension still.
KLR's like ostriches were not meant to leave the ground...
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:59 AM   #5608
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.. LOL .. go have fun with it .. that's what they are for .. having recently busted my butt and my bike on a little off-road excursion I can appreciate your adventure-lust .. go for it .. just don't kill yourself for lack of gear .. that would suck ..

.. RE the bolts .. someone smarter than I discovered the weakness really lay in the fact that right as the shank of the bolt goes into the frame it ends (stock bolts), meaning that the shear load is right at a weak point (the skinny little part where the threads start and the meat of the shank ends) .. poor design .. simply replacing them with bolts designed to put the shank into the frame solves this problem .. stronger bolts even more so .. thats my understanding of the sub-frame upgrade kits that came out ..
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:00 AM   #5609
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KLR's like ostriches were not meant to leave the ground...
.. funny this .. good stuff .. I should learn this lesson ..
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:34 AM   #5610
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A bit OT but as the topic of the upper subframe bolt was mentioned.
The ones that come with the Motec crash bars are 10.8 grade, and I am lead to believe that these are about the strongest that you can get.
Is there that much strain that these break as well? Has it happened to anybody?



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It's my best guess that the ones that break are just a bit loose.

The little bit of wiggle allowed by loose bolts makes for constant loading and unloading of them, eventually breaking them.

I'll bet $5 that if 100 KLR owners go out and check their upper subframe bolts, at least 30 of them will be able to tighten the bolts 1/4 turn or more.

That said, I have the drill-through kit on mine.



Hey, at least the rear subframe bolts didn't break!
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