ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Thumpers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-08-2014, 07:14 PM   #1
JMartin OP
Gnarly Adventurer
 
JMartin's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: That very fine line. (Denver, CO USA)
Oddometer: 415
Sorting a 2008 XR650L

Hello all,

I am excited to have just purchased this 2008 XR650L [pic taken in the previous owner's (PO's) barn].
[IMG][/IMG]
My intention is to go through her—stem to stern—to get her sorted out, and I anticipate needing help both understanding what modifications have been made and with my own mods to come.

While I've been reading through the XRL-owners-sign-in thread (and taking copious notes), I decided to post my project in a separate thread, thinking I'll have a better chance of not overlooking a post meant for my eyes and this specific undertaking

First up—the fork conversion
One area of obvious concern is how the handlebar is misaligned with the top triple clamp:
[IMG][/IMG]
I am hoping this is nothing more than one of the bar mounts being installed backwards and not an indication of something seriously wrong with the PO's fork conversion.

Questions:
  • Why doesn't the original top triple clamp work with a fork conversion? Are the diameters of the original forks and the CRF forks different?
  • Are both my upper and lower triple clamps from a CRF?
  • Besides not being able to run fat bars or an under-bar Scotts steering stabilizer, what is the downside to living with these triple clamps?
  • What is the procedure for getting the correct rake?
  • Anything else I should be concerned about with the PO's front end setup?
And one more thing for now: what are the bolt holes at eleven and five o'clock?
[IMG][/IMG]
Thanks,
Jay
__________________
6. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." 16 Things it takes most of us 50 years to learn.
JMartin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2014, 07:36 PM   #2
mineolaman
Adventurer Wannabe
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Lone Star State
Oddometer: 58
xrl

I just bought a 2003 myself. Will be following your progress and mods as you go. Congratulations!
mineolaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2014, 08:23 PM   #3
mcma111
Beastly Adventurer
 
mcma111's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco,Ca.
Oddometer: 11,010
Martin,


Take the bike somewhere that you can bash the front wheel against something like a tree or power pole and whap it to the right and your bars will miraculously find themselves in alignment.

The holes at 5 and 11 are for a disc cover.

BTW... Go to the XRL thread. You won't get lost.
__________________
Steve in SF

BMW's
58 R26
79 R100s
91 R100gs

87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project
mcma111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 06:37 AM   #4
JMartin OP
Gnarly Adventurer
 
JMartin's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: That very fine line. (Denver, CO USA)
Oddometer: 415
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcma111 View Post
...Take the bike somewhere that you can bash the front wheel against something like a tree or power pole and whap it to the right and your bars will miraculously find themselves in alignment.
Thanks Steve. I'm going to loosen the forks up and slide them up an inch as I read in the big thread of someone cutting his forks off by 1". I suspect that will also serve as the whap.

Jay
__________________
6. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." 16 Things it takes most of us 50 years to learn.
JMartin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 07:15 AM   #5
mcma111
Beastly Adventurer
 
mcma111's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco,Ca.
Oddometer: 11,010
Not necessarily. The bars may also be off because the bar rubbers are out of position.

BTW... When you raise the fork tubes do one at a time.
__________________
Steve in SF

BMW's
58 R26
79 R100s
91 R100gs

87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project
mcma111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 09:55 AM   #6
JMartin OP
Gnarly Adventurer
 
JMartin's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: That very fine line. (Denver, CO USA)
Oddometer: 415
The whap took some of the misalignment out. I also found the PO had installed the bar mounts incorrectly, the one on the left with the arrow pointing up and the one on the right with the arrow pointing down.

I'm hoping addressing this will fully correct the handlebar misalignment and that this is not an indication of the PO's inattention to detail throughout.

I also raised the forks about as much as I could. My reading is leading me to believe however that triple clamp offset as well as where the forks sit in the triples contribute to the handling and that there isn't necessarily one perfect setting. So getting the front end completely sorted sounds like it is going to take experimentation. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Jay
__________________
6. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." 16 Things it takes most of us 50 years to learn.
JMartin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 11:05 AM   #7
mcma111
Beastly Adventurer
 
mcma111's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco,Ca.
Oddometer: 11,010
Rotate the left fork 1/4 turn clockwise so you can access the air bleed screw.

Details man, details. Pay attention.
__________________
Steve in SF

BMW's
58 R26
79 R100s
91 R100gs

87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project
mcma111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 12:14 PM   #8
JMartin OP
Gnarly Adventurer
 
JMartin's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: That very fine line. (Denver, CO USA)
Oddometer: 415
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcma111 View Post
...Details man, details. Pay attention.
Aye aye sir. It won't happen again sir.
Now how about this for a rear fender fitment detail?

Back in my woodworking days we'd call something like that butchering. (I know I'm supposed to be focusing on the front end, but I just had to take a peak under the seat.)

Jay
__________________
6. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." 16 Things it takes most of us 50 years to learn.
JMartin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 12:42 PM   #9
mcma111
Beastly Adventurer
 
mcma111's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco,Ca.
Oddometer: 11,010
Looks like someone looped that bad boy at some point.


EDIT... Just saw that you don't have the OE fender. I have the link to installing a CRF rear fender on my home computer. I can post it later.
__________________
Steve in SF

BMW's
58 R26
79 R100s
91 R100gs

87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project
mcma111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 04:49 PM   #10
JMartin OP
Gnarly Adventurer
 
JMartin's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: That very fine line. (Denver, CO USA)
Oddometer: 415
Frozen Comp Screw and Upper Triple Confusion

Discovered a problem--the compression-setting screw on the bottom of the right fork is frozen and won't click in either direction. I was planning to try and determine whether or not I need different fork springs and will then send them out for work.

I'm still a little confused about aftermarket triple clamps, e.g. RSW, BRP, and Emig. How would these fit post fork conversion? Or would I order a triple for a CRF instead of an XR?

Jay
__________________
6. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." 16 Things it takes most of us 50 years to learn.
JMartin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 05:01 PM   #11
smokeeater495
Studly Adventurer
 
smokeeater495's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: N.E. Indiana
Oddometer: 579
Those specific aftermarket triples are engineered to adapt the CRF forks onto the XRL. They allow you to maintain attachment points for speedo, key switch, etc.
__________________
Harley, been there done that. Don't want to be a pirate.
smokeeater495 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2014, 09:34 PM   #12
JMartin OP
Gnarly Adventurer
 
JMartin's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: That very fine line. (Denver, CO USA)
Oddometer: 415
Quote:
Originally Posted by smokeeater495 View Post
Those specific aftermarket triples are engineered to adapt the CRF forks onto the XRL. They allow you to maintain attachment points for speedo, key switch, etc.
That is very helpful; thanks. I suppose I would know all this if I'd have performed the conversion. All I knew was that the conversion was supposed to be a positive and this bike already had it.

Jay
__________________
6. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." 16 Things it takes most of us 50 years to learn.
JMartin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2014, 11:17 AM   #13
JMartin OP
Gnarly Adventurer
 
JMartin's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: That very fine line. (Denver, CO USA)
Oddometer: 415
The speedo cable is as taught as a guitar string. Is there a longer cable available? Or do you just live with it if you want to use the stock speedometer with USD?

Thanks,

Jay
__________________
6. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." 16 Things it takes most of us 50 years to learn.
JMartin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2014, 11:20 AM   #14
mcma111
Beastly Adventurer
 
mcma111's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco,Ca.
Oddometer: 11,010
I run my cable in front of the fork tube. You could have a custom cable made by Motion Pro.

__________________
Steve in SF

BMW's
58 R26
79 R100s
91 R100gs

87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project
mcma111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2014, 05:11 PM   #15
JMartin OP
Gnarly Adventurer
 
JMartin's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: That very fine line. (Denver, CO USA)
Oddometer: 415
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcma111 View Post
I run my cable in front of the fork tube...
Very nice; and now I'm doing the same.

Moving now to under the seat
The PO installed this battery.

I've heard these can be problematic in cold weather. Any thoughts on this one's capacity?

Before tackling the jetting, I will replace this with a Twinair.


I suppose I also need to verify the PO completed Dave's mods before I get into the jetting.

Thanks,
Jay
__________________
6. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." 16 Things it takes most of us 50 years to learn.
JMartin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 05:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014