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Old 07-10-2008, 09:48 AM   #226
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Yea I can sell you my blown out rear shock, that should lower it a bit
or let some air outta the tires??
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:41 PM   #227
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Here are the pics of my new (to me) bike
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here is the custom rack that was made for it by the guy who had it before me
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:20 PM   #228
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Nice ride!

Ive been wondering how i could build a rack for my soft luggage. That just gave me a few ideas.
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Old 07-20-2008, 09:21 AM   #229
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'89 xt 600 right side engine cover

Oil filter bolt hole is stripped out. Looks like it was repaired before. I have priced a replacement cover, cheapest is 257.00. Ouch! Anyone have a cheaper replacement alternative?
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:26 PM   #230
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Oil filter bolt hole is stripped out. Looks like it was repaired before. I have priced a replacement cover, cheapest is 257.00. Ouch! Anyone have a cheaper replacement alternative?
which hole?

seriously, I seem to remember that the lower hole is larger and goes into the oil gallery as a drain???

helicoil to the rescue??

if it's one of the upper holes, I remember seeing where someone pulled the cover and inserted a bolt from the back side, red loctited in place. then you only tighten on a SS thread with a nut ... lemme see if I can find something on Mr AllGore's InterWeb.

didn't we have this discussion back in January???

has that pore bike been sitting since then???

yep we did looky linky here
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Old 07-20-2008, 09:35 PM   #231
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which hole?

seriously, I seem to remember that the lower hole is larger and goes into the oil gallery as a drain???

helicoil to the rescue??

if it's one of the upper holes, I remember seeing where someone pulled the cover and inserted a bolt from the back side, red loctited in place. then you only tighten on a SS thread with a nut ... lemme see if I can find something on Mr AllGore's InterWeb.

didn't we have this discussion back in January???

has that pore bike been sitting since then???

yep we did looky linky here
I come from a long line of poor ass procrastinators. I think one enables the other. I was having sticker shock on oem cover replacements. If they were cheaper it would have been a cleaner fix. Yes the xt sits, and neglected she more became when I purchased an '86 honda reflex, little enduro/trials bike. Now that my mental health has improved (with the new bike) I hope to get going on big red. At least I'm thinking about thinking about it.
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:24 AM   #232
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Hey, you XT lovin phreaks....


I got a buddy that just bought a '92 (I think) XT. Got the engine running well, and now he's workin' on the brakes. This dudes a gypsy, though, and now he's talking about leaving VA for Whistler, BC. Thing is, he wants to sell most of his stuff, and only keep the XT, two Mt Bikes, and two kayaks. He was asking me last night whether the XT could pull a small trailer with the boats, the bikes, and a few other things.


My thought is that it might be too much for the little thumper.

Anyone got any insight??
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:47 AM   #233
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Hey, you XT lovin phreaks....


I got a buddy that just bought a '92 (I think) XT. Got the engine running well, and now he's workin' on the brakes. This dudes a gypsy, though, and now he's talking about leaving VA for Whistler, BC. Thing is, he wants to sell most of his stuff, and only keep the XT, two Mt Bikes, and two kayaks. He was asking me last night whether the XT could pull a small trailer with the boats, the bikes, and a few other things.


My thought is that it might be too much for the little thumper.

Anyone got any insight??
I've been wondering too. With the price of gas I'd like to be able to pull a small trailer. Skill saw, tool bags, lunch and cooler...maybe our leettle dog.
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Old 07-21-2008, 07:41 AM   #234
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I found a great little trick this weekend, maybe you guys know it already. I don't like not being able to start in gear w/ the sidestand down, but didn't want to cut up the wiring to the sidestand switch. Easy fix, unbolt it, and flip it around, it fits back perfectly, and now I can start in gear w/ the sidestand down. :)

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Old 07-21-2008, 08:08 AM   #235
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I got a question that is mostly ab out electronics, but it all is on a 95' XT so maybe you guys can help out;

I recently installed two 55w halogen lamps on the front of my bike along with a voltage meter. when I am riding the voltage stays around 13.4ish and when I turn the light on it slowely drops to mid 12s. I am wondering what I need to look for in the voltage meter to know when it is hurting the alternator/charging coil. I am basicilly asking at what voltage I need to turn off the Aux lights?
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Old 07-21-2008, 10:32 AM   #236
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I got a question that is mostly ab out electronics, but it all is on a 95' XT so maybe you guys can help out;

I recently installed two 55w halogen lamps on the front of my bike along with a voltage meter. when I am riding the voltage stays around 13.4ish and when I turn the light on it slowely drops to mid 12s. I am wondering what I need to look for in the voltage meter to know when it is hurting the alternator/charging coil. I am basicilly asking at what voltage I need to turn off the Aux lights?
try ONE of the two lights and see how the voltage is ...

basically if you drop below 13v (+/-), you're not putting any energy in the battery ... at some point you'll be drawing energy outta the battery, shortening battery life but increasing opportunities to exercise yourself as you try and bump start it.

I run a 35w aux light, and since my battery is like 6 years old, I see the effects in the warning LED on my dynatek monitor flashing when I drop to idle, hit turn signals, etc.

page 2-15 in the manual shows the capacity as 13.5A @ 14 VDC .... AT 5000 rpm

below that engine speed you get less juice

that's 189 watts @ 5000 rpm

minus 55w for the stock LOW beam = 134w
minus 55w for ONE aux light = 79w
minus 8w for tail light = 71w
minus 3.4w for meter backlight = 67.6w

High beam adds 5w more + 3.4w for another indicator light = 8.4w

stomp the brake and drop another 27w

oh, if the front running lights are hooked up that's another 16w (2X8w each)

anyway, you're pushing it toooo far with 2 extra halogens ... are they 55w or more?

if you want that much light, better look at HID lights

or strap a car battery on back and run the extras off it
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Old 07-21-2008, 10:52 PM   #237
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try ONE of the two lights and see how the voltage is ...

basically if you drop below 13v (+/-), you're not putting any energy in the battery ... at some point you'll be drawing energy outta the battery, shortening battery life but increasing opportunities to exercise yourself as you try and bump start it.

I run a 35w aux light, and since my battery is like 6 years old, I see the effects in the warning LED on my dynatek monitor flashing when I drop to idle, hit turn signals, etc.

page 2-15 in the manual shows the capacity as 13.5A @ 14 VDC .... AT 5000 rpm

below that engine speed you get less juice

that's 189 watts @ 5000 rpm

minus 55w for the stock LOW beam = 134w
minus 55w for ONE aux light = 79w
minus 8w for tail light = 71w
minus 3.4w for meter backlight = 67.6w

High beam adds 5w more + 3.4w for another indicator light = 8.4w

stomp the brake and drop another 27w

oh, if the front running lights are hooked up that's another 16w (2X8w each)

anyway, you're pushing it toooo far with 2 extra halogens ... are they 55w or more?

if you want that much light, better look at HID lights

or strap a car battery on back and run the extras off it
thanks a bunch that really helps me out, so if I run it below 13v on my meter I am drawing directly off of the charging coil or will it just drain the battery?

at what point do I risk hurting somthing (like the charging coil) and doing damage to something besides the battery?
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:08 AM   #238
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Always wanted a Tenere and now I'm pleased to say that I took delivery of this beauty last week

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Old 07-22-2008, 03:44 AM   #239
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Always wanted a Tenere and now I'm pleased to say that I took delivery of this beauty last week

Thats one nice looking Tenere. Looks like it just left the showroom
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:02 AM   #240
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thanks a bunch that really helps me out, so if I run it below 13v on my meter I am drawing directly off of the charging coil or will it just drain the battery?

at what point do I risk hurting somthing (like the charging coil) and doing damage to something besides the battery?
the "charging coil" is at full output (depending on engine speed) all the time.

the regulator is a shunt, that is it passes excess energy as heat. You aren't in an excess energy situation, rather the opposite, so the regulator will be taking it pretty easy.

so whenever you exceed the stator's output, you draw the extra off the battery ... it being a storage device for surges (like the starter).

now to be honest I don't know if the XT600E will keep on ticking with a dead (or missing battery), I know my old XT500C ran for several years without a battery installed (Jardine up pipe ran right thru the battery area), but it was a kickstart with an AC headlight (ran off the coil only when the motor was running).

Best case is you run the battery down until it hasn't enough voltage to support the TCI (ignition black box). Which "could" damage the box internals from trying to pass enough current without sufficent voltage, so I guess that's not best case.

you have to replace energy you expend from the battery, if you're overrunning the charging system capability, you can't replace the power used in cranking.

eventually you'll have a dead battery, because discharging a standard battery beyond (I think I remember) 10.5 volts actually damages the cell chemistry if done repeatedly.

DO NOT overload the wiring!!!!

if you're using the headlight switch, I suggest you use a seperately fused source thru a heavy relay so as to avoid too small conductors.

a suggestion

I know more light is better
have you tried a different type bulb?

I replaced all my bike headlights with Sylvania SilverStars and the difference is amazing. Same wattage, same power draw, but whiter & brighter light.

again, I think you need to consider HID lights if you need 3 55w halogens.

an HID typically delivers 2 - 2.5 times as much light for 1/2 the current draw. ... unfortunately they are expensive and more complicated.

I intend to get some of the Trail Tech 13w HIDs, 2 = a 70 watt halogen, but only draw 26w ... last I looked they were about $125 each.
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