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Old 08-10-2012, 07:17 PM   #5296
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a small bottle of denatured alcohol (for degreasing those JB Weld and JB Kwik repairs), Whisky.
I tend to carry a small flask of Cold River Vodka, it kills those two birds with one stone.
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:19 PM   #5297
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Bought this nearly cherry xr250r trying to post right

I'm a big time xr fan. (Have a xr400 and xr600) Bought this for my teenage daughter. She no likey- no electric start. What's a dad to do? Yep! Keep it n ride it! The bike had probably less than 300 miles on it, street legal 2002. Came out of a time warp 2002. I put a aftermarket seat, mt43 on it (back tire original and starting to crack) and proceeded to put over 1000 miles on it primarily off road. It's done the nastiest single track, rock scrambles and even some tough hill climbs I was surprised I could pull! I did need to watch my line better because i didn't have power to solve problems though. Also was really impressed in Mammoth on the trails and fire roads...hung tough with faster bikes! All that and 70+ MPG!! ?! Probably one of the best bikes around below 50 mph.

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Old 08-11-2012, 09:30 PM   #5298
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Not exactly touring, but dual sporting on WR250R and CRF230L. I enjoy the pics on this thread, thought I would share a video. The 230 is pretty much stock other than an airbox mod and Q4 pipe. My WRR has the IMS 3 gal tank, 46T rear sprocket, open airbox, Q4 pipe, and I highly recommend the T63 rear tire.
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:40 AM   #5299
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doesn't all that gas weight on the front end make the bike steer slow?
that is an odd place for extra fuel.


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I am 6'1", 230 lbs on a 230L! On gnarly singletrack mountain trails I can pick my bike up and spin it around! Pulls my big carcass very well < 45 MPH, climbs steep stuff to limit of traction. The tractive power band does not tend to spin the rear wheel- it just sticks and climbs! When loaded, the light bike is still light compared to others, and still easy to handle. Seat Concepts, 1 7//8 " handlebar risers. Stiffest shock setting, 15w in the forks, emissions can off and rejetted, XRs Only footpegs, MSR folding alu shifter, Flatland skid plate, TCI windscreen, rack, Kolpin 1.5 gal. Stock tank is 2.3 gal; 63 to 70 MPG loaded, 63 on hwy wide open up mountain pass, 70+ mpg on dirt. Honda handguards, Cannondale 30 oz bottle & holder attached by Topeak handlebar mount. Crossbar map holder. I have a 12 t front sprocket that I like for dirt riding but will probably use the stock 13 t traveling; neither allows uphill on a mtn pass > 50ish MPH loaded or unloaded- not enough HP. Giant Loop Great Basin 50L with a 20L dry bag in photo (I now have a 30L dry bag). Camp: The same light stuff I pull in the BOB trailer behind my Cannondale bicycle on family trips. Sub 4-lb tent, 2 lb sleeping bag, 1 lb REI inflatable insulated mattress, ultralight puffy coat with hood, 2 oz cookstove/ isobutane, titanium pot 1L, titanium skillet, freeze dried food and some ready to eat eg Dona Maria chicken en mole, Starbucks French Roast coffee tubes, light MSR water filter, 2- 1.5 L nalgene water bottles plus the 30 oz handlebar bottle, Petzl headlamp, Asolo walking shoes and nylon trousers and travel shirt when out of riding atttire. Small 2 oz AM/FM radio tuned to Rush Limbaugh.

Thanks Wenatchee Honda guys for advice, service, seat installation, and emissions removal/ jetting.







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Great trail bike, 83 MPG easy trail and dirt road riding! 63 MPG with camp load trying to go highway speed in the mountains. 70 MPG on tight technical trail riding. With the low-end power I think I am riding faster at lower RPM = > MPG, as I learn this bike.

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Old 08-12-2012, 12:11 PM   #5300
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doesn't all that gas weight on the front end make the bike steer slow?
that is an odd place for extra fuel.
Seems ok so far. I rode FS mountain singletrack with that load and gas tank, and a lot of rough FS/ DNR mountain road.

That is a small motorcycle. I am 6'1". Just enough room on the short moto to put my Giant Loop Great Basin behind. The gas on front is better balanced I think. Did not work my arms.

I was happy to discover that when you start with a small, easy to ride moto, and hang on 60 lbs total gear, it is still relatively light and easy to handle. 32 inch seat height. Low gearing. Short wheelbase. I can pick it up, spin it around on the rear tire unloaded, and still easy to handle loaded as shown.

If the gas up front becomes a problem, I could mount it on the back. But I have avoided adding a back rack- weight, complexity.

Acerbis sells a front gas tank for dirt bikes. And the couple around the world on Symbas strapped their tanks to the front.

So far, so good.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:24 PM   #5301
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chain cleaning?

What do you guys use to clean your chain?
( Commercial product, dealer product, or whatever? )
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:41 PM   #5302
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What do you guys use to clean your chain?
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Pour a cupful of kerosene and use a toothbrush. I usually have some newspaper under the length of the chain to not make a mess of my driveway.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:08 PM   #5303
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What do you guys use to clean your chain?
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No chain cleaning/lube regimen has been shown to give longer chain life on a dual sport bike than regular hosing down with WD40. Use a grunge brush or similar to deal with encrustations.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:43 PM   #5304
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No chain cleaning/lube regimen has been shown to give longer chain life on a dual sport bike than regular hosing down with WD40. Use a grunge brush or similar to deal with encrustations.
That is quite a statement! Perhaps you can support it?

WD-40 is controversial, and many argue is will ruin your chain. Here is a Webbikeworld article in which a former WD-40 chain cleaner renounced it after being presented with evidence from an engineer that it is harmful.

I certainly don't know scientifically whether WD-40 is good or bad, but if it is controversial, I'd prefer not to use it.

I use Varsol (or paint thinner or kerosene) and a small bristle brush, then spray-on DuPont Multi (now reformulated and reportedly not very good, so not what I'll be using once my supply is gone).
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:44 PM   #5305
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What do you guys use to clean your chain?
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I don't touch my chain. My the O-ring chain is internally lubed and I wish not to alter that. I just ride. The surfaces that do not flex or touch other surfaces are caked with crap. The surfaces that make contact, shine.

So far my sprockets and chain are looking great after 6700 miles. If I get another 5000 more out of them I'll be happy.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:09 PM   #5306
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I don't touch my chain. My the O-ring chain is internally lubed and I wish not to alter that. I just ride. The surfaces that do not flex or touch other surfaces are caked with crap. The surfaces that make contact, shine.

So far my sprockets and chain are looking great after 6700 miles. If I get another 5000 more out of them I'll be happy.

What kind of climate are you in? My chain would rust to pieces if I did that. I haven't found any good solution for chain maintenance. I've fallen back on chain wax as the best compromise...not penetrating, not too sticky, yet still affording some rust protection.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:17 PM   #5307
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What kind of climate are you in? My chain would rust to pieces if I did that. I haven't found any good solution for chain maintenance. I've fallen back on chain wax as the best compromise...not penetrating, not too sticky, yet still affording some rust protection.
I'm in New England. I think the coating of crap prevents, or at least, hides the rust.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:46 PM   #5308
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I have always used WD40 or CRC to clean chains....
But I use it from bulk 4 liter containers.. wiped on with a rag
so you are not spraying it into the links/o-rings... then
brush it and wipe again...
The other thing I have found on dirt bikes is don't use
thick chain lube... dirt/dust sticks to it a lot more
than a thin lube .. I use Castrol chain lube it wipes off
easyer with a WD40 drenched rag takeing the dirt with it..
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:03 PM   #5309
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I think I've seen owners manuals say to use 90W gear oil, after cleaning with kerosene.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:53 PM   #5310
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That is quite a statement! Perhaps you can support it?

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I can. There are no scientific or quasi-scientific studies. There is a fair body of anecdotal information about the kind of mileages you can expect from an 0-ring chain on a DS bike using WD-40. There is zero information about what you can get with any other chain spooge or snake oil. I have never seen anyone offer any information at all about chain life on a DS bike with any other product. That's my take after reading the various fora for the last ten years. If you can show me something that suggests otherwise, I'd be glad to read it.

I don't know that WD40 is any better than doing nothing at all. I know that the chains on my dual sport bikes last about four times as long on WD40 as they do on 90 wt, which is indisputably a better lubricant. The reason is two-fold: You cannot extend a chain's life by coating it with a substance that traps grit, and you cannot effectively lubricate a chain at all without a continuous-feed chain oiler. There is nothing that you can spray or squirt a chain at every gas stop that will lubricate the wearing surfaces of the sprockets and rollers for more than a couple of miles, at most.
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