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Old 01-06-2013, 08:01 AM   #5806
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Well Iīm not all that up with these minimal bikes since I do a quite few enduro trails a year.
I just canīt figure out what the fx is good for. But if people are having fun with em thatīs good for me.

I had some time on my hand in 2012 and bo a pile of bought a pile of rust for 400 Euros, spent some 600 Euros in parts as well as somwhere around 200 hours in tim and out cam my perfect minimal fun bike:


Gilrea RX 200/ 1984
200 cc, 2-stroke
somewhere around 20 horsepower
enough suspension
weight, 140 kg

I know itīs old school, front brake is terrible makes a lot of noise and doesnīt have a whole lot of power, but in the dirt itīs still a lot of fun and even though itīs old the bike is allways reliable. For the longer trails I still have my BMW.

I wish everyone in the forum a happy new year and fun as well as safe riding in 2013.

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Old 01-06-2013, 09:25 AM   #5807
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Mountain bike parts.
Mike here from FX Bikes. Hope you don't mind me clarifying a few points :)
Actually there are almost zero mountain bike parts on these bikes.
The forks are oversized downhill (DH) mountain bike forks with enduro springs, discontinued because too heavy for bicycles...just right for us.
The handlebars are from DH mountain bikes...that's about it now.
We tried DH wheels and brakes (6-pot titanium by Hope no less) but have shifted to moto/enduro tires, rims, spokes, hubs front and rear.
See more specs at www.fxbikes.com/bikes

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Old 01-06-2013, 09:37 AM   #5808
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Yep. I have a feeling that the engine is super light also, at least compared to most 250s and 650s. It's only got a 4 speed in it, SOHC, etc.
Yes, FX engines are 40-50lb. A TW200 engine is around 80-90lb.

A key difference is tire size and weight. A TW tire is maybe 30lb or more...this is spinning and unsprung weight, by far the worst kind to have on a motorcycle.

Requires bigger tubes, rims, spokes, hubs, sprocket, chain, suspension, engine...its a "vicious cycle" if you'll excuse the pun.

FX tires are 19" x 3", about 10lb each. The virtuous cycle brings total weight of the bike down to 125lb, so traction from such a small tire is excellent, unless you really want to ride in soft sand.
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Old 01-06-2013, 09:46 AM   #5809
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The FX bikes sounds great, but couldn't someone like Honda leapfrog them straight outa the water with throwing road gear onto a CR150r http://www.honda-motorcycles.org/images/2009CRF150R.jpg or CR150F http://www.honda-motorcycles.org/images/2009CRF150R.jpg ?
CRF150R big wheel is designed for 12 year old motocross racers, so the wheelbase and overall geometry is cramped for adult riding.

Awesome powerful engine, but it is for racing and does have similar rebuild requirements to the other new-generation 4-strokes like the CRF250 and 450.

FX has similar geometry to CRF230/250, with lower seat, so it is a fully adult-sized trail/dual/adventure bike.
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:02 AM   #5810
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I like it! Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:39 AM   #5811
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MikeFX,
I'm sure some folks prefer low-tech low-maintenance engines, and I'm sure the lightweight FX design can only handle a limited amount of power, I'd be interested in more power & more gears. Maybe a 2-stroke, 6 speed? A lot of riders would be happy to rebuild a simple 2-stroke, every year or two, for twice the Hp.

btw, How much weight difference between a 19" and an 18" rear wheel & tire?
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:39 AM   #5812
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Any advice on riding the UTBDT http://www.backcountrydiscoveryroutes.com/UTBDR or COBDT http://www.backcountrydiscoveryroutes.com/COBDR on a 250cc dual sport?

What gear to take, what to leave at home? How to prep the bike?

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Some good info here: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820992
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:57 AM   #5813
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The FX would be nice to hang off the back of a camper or RV
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Old 01-06-2013, 05:01 PM   #5814
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I'd like to get a test ride on one of those FX bikes. Very similar to an idea I've had for a long time. Seems sort of like a hybrid trials/trails bike.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:55 AM   #5815
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MikeFX,
I'm sure some folks prefer low-tech low-maintenance engines, and I'm sure the lightweight FX design can only handle a limited amount of power, I'd be interested in more power & more gears. Maybe a 2-stroke, 6 speed? A lot of riders would be happy to rebuild a simple 2-stroke, every year or two, for twice the Hp.
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I had a 99 Saturn that fit my needs perfectly, when it came time to replace it, Saturn no longer had a basic efficient car, I had to switch companies. In my perspective, Saturn had let customer input encourage them to move to more horsepower, bigger cars like all the other companies. Saturn is gone now, I believe largely because they left the basic car concept they built the business on.

I encourage FX Bikes to stick with the concept and not try to be everything for everybody. my 2 cents.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:19 PM   #5816
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I had a 99 Saturn that fit my needs perfectly, when it came time to replace it, Saturn no longer had a basic efficient car, I had to switch companies. In my perspective, Saturn had let customer input encourage them to move to more horsepower, bigger cars like all the other companies. Saturn is gone now, I believe largely because they left the basic car concept they built the business on.

I encourage FX Bikes to stick with the concept and not try to be everything for everybody. my 2 cents.

I understand what you're saying, but if the bike can accomodate a variety of engines then it will appeal to a larger market.

Offering consumers a lot of engine size options has worked well for KTM.

I agree their ultra-light motorcycle concept is a great thing. But, do they think agressive riders will remain satisfied with a "beginner engine"? Or will their concept be wisked away by the established motorcycle companies who will boost the Hp a bit more?

Everyone wants a lighter off-road bike, but nobody wants to ride a moped.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:30 PM   #5817
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nobody wants to ride a moped.
Have you ever ridden one??? They are cool in their own way!
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:01 PM   #5818
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I don't think there target market is the "hardcore" crowd, I feel they're aiming at people who want a bike that can go anywhere and everywhere with minimal effort if you get into a "bind". At 125-150lbs. anyone can toss that thing around to get out of a sticky situation.

If you add more power, more weight, you've got a dirtbike... there are already 1000's of options for that.

What FX seems to be doing is offering a super reliable, adverse, easy to use machine to offer it to a broad audience.

Why build another "dirt bike"? This isn't a dirt bike, it's something new and something I am very interested in. Wish I could afford one at the moment before the discount goes away
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:13 PM   #5819
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Just a quick introduction here.. I'm 50 yrs old in south central missouri.. Yep Great riding both off the beaten path and great backroads..My main ride is a 2006 suzuki gz250 and I also have a 73 honda SL100.. Love this thread here..I take the gz many places maybe IT and I shouldn't be by most peoples standards.. But you know what they say ALL bikes used to be whatever you needed.. No hill climbing or jumping but If I can make it nice and slow and see something new I'll give it a go... I've had the bike have been down many a rough gravel roads and even forest 2 tracks..When I can figure out how to get some pictures off My phone I'll show how I have My bike fixed up..You have to see it to understand LOL.. Am a firm believer in making do with what I have or can get a hold of cheap..That and My budget kind of demands that...Planning a couple at Least weekend trips this spring.. Anyone enjoy close to the Van Buren area let Me know that'll be one of my trips this sping..I have a buddy with a 03 super sherpa and we'd be happy as hell to meet up with others who enjoy small bikes.. Sorry as I look up I notice this post is kind of rambling and disjointed but that kind of describes Me at times..
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:39 PM   #5820
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Just a quick introduction here.. I'm 50 yrs old in south central missouri.. Yep Great riding both off the beaten path and great backroads..My main ride is a 2006 suzuki gz250 and I also have a 73 honda SL100.. Love this thread here..I take the gz many places maybe IT and I shouldn't be by most peoples standards.. But you know what they say ALL bikes used to be whatever you needed.. No hill climbing or jumping but If I can make it nice and slow and see something new I'll give it a go... I've had the bike have been down many a rough gravel roads and even forest 2 tracks..When I can figure out how to get some pictures off My phone I'll show how I have My bike fixed up..You have to see it to understand LOL.. Am a firm believer in making do with what I have or can get a hold of cheap..That and My budget kind of demands that...Planning a couple at Least weekend trips this spring.. Anyone enjoy close to the Van Buren area let Me know that'll be one of my trips this sping..I have a buddy with a 03 super sherpa and we'd be happy as hell to meet up with others who enjoy small bikes.. Sorry as I look up I notice this post is kind of rambling and disjointed but that kind of describes Me at times..
Welcome to the thread!
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