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Old 04-27-2013, 05:54 AM   #6376
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your loss on the sale price is worth not having the issues that can arise from selling it yourself,I have sold a few over the years and it often work out ok,but selling requires alot of meeting people to look at what your selling until it goes,sometimes for alot less because I get tired of the whole process and just let it go,the dealer did all that 4 ya.Buyers remorse/sellers remorse.
Yeah, every time I've bought or sold or consigned I feel like I've been screwed over. When the dealer pulls out that NADA book that doesn't consider mileage or condition or accessories you know you're on the losing end of the stick. I talked to the dealer and said I had wanted to be firm on my asking price this early in the season and he said ' okay, I can get a couple hundred more for you - it's a friend of mine so I can talk to him.' So the salesman was trying to help his buddy while pocketing a commission. Not right or wrong, just sours you on dealers sometimes.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:20 AM   #6377
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Has anyone ever used bicycle panniers on your motorcycle? They seem to be more readily available, and, importantly, a fair sight cheaper.

For context, I am mentally gearing up for a future minimalist tour on my new (to me) TU250
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:23 AM   #6378
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Has anyone ever used bicycle panniers on your motorcycle? They seem to be more readily available, and, importantly, a fair sight cheaper.

For context, I am mentally gearing up for a future minimalist tour on my new (to me) TU250
Great question as I alway look for a less costly alternative when gearing up the KLR for wandering,I'll be watching.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:00 AM   #6379
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Has anyone ever used bicycle panniers on your motorcycle? They seem to be more readily available, and, importantly, a fair sight cheaper.

For context, I am mentally gearing up for a future minimalist tour on my new (to me) TU250


I've been using Mountain Smith large "dog bags" , mainly for trail riding. They are under $40, (maybe $32 if you search around). They fit pretty well, I removed all the straps that were for dogs and just place it on my seat and clip it with a carabiner to my rear rack. They aren't huge, but you can stuff some relatively bulky things in them. I've packed jackets, pants, shoes, tools, etc. in them.


.....Tried to post a photo, but I can't remember how to. The photobucket/ADV interface is so stupid I can never remember how to trim the extra code to force it to work.......ARRRG!
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:08 AM   #6380
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Hey I looked up the Mountain smith stuff,looks like it works good,I'll do some more looking at their stuff.
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:33 AM   #6381
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Hardly considered "touring" but the other day I rode about 3 hours each way out of my city, 4 hours of open highway and 2 hours of two lane. Maybe 2 miles of gravel, haha.

Either way, the little 250 handled it great and I was more than impressed- started at 500cc, then 675, then 500, then 650, and now 250....while I do miss all the bikes, this one is just too damn fun.
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Old 04-27-2013, 12:00 PM   #6382
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I've been using Mountain Smith large "dog bags" , mainly for trail riding. They are under $40, (maybe $32 if you search around). They fit pretty well, I removed all the straps that were for dogs and just place it on my seat and clip it with a carabiner to my rear rack. They aren't huge, but you can stuff some relatively bulky things in them. I've packed jackets, pants, shoes, tools, etc. in them.


.....Tried to post a photo, but I can't remember how to. The photobucket/ADV interface is so stupid I can never remember how to trim the extra code to force it to work.......ARRRG!
All is revealed here...

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:39 PM   #6383
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Thanks,

I have posted images before using photobucket. It was a total PITA to figure out how the first time, and even after learning to clip the IMG off of the links it's still a tricky "hit or miss" hassle for me

It's just not worth the effort sometimes....
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:52 PM   #6384
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Has anyone ever used bicycle panniers on your motorcycle? They seem to be more readily available, and, importantly, a fair sight cheaper.

For context, I am mentally gearing up for a future minimalist tour on my new (to me) TU250
I've used bicycle bags. They work perfectly well. Replaced them with canvas bags from a military surplus that were just a tat more practical. They're also cheap and albeit less sturdy than the bicycle panniers still efficient.
I line them with garbage bags against water.

The one argument that can be hold against these bags is their vulnerability, especially abrasion. They'll handle drops at low speed well though.
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:54 PM   #6385
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Thanks,

I have posted images before using photobucket. It was a total PITA to figure out how the first time, and even after learning to clip the IMG off of the links it's still a tricky "hit or miss" hassle for me

It's just not worth the effort sometimes....
Smugmug and Firefox are completely painless. I simply right click the photo I want in my smugmug gallery and choose "Copy image location", click the little mountainscape icon in the editor here and instant linked picture.

Haven't used Internet Explorer in years but if I remember right there was no simple "Copy image location" shortcut like Firefox has so it always took more digging to get to the "share photo link" in smugmug. The story is always better with pictures, don't give up.

I could tell you how my wife felt after crashing her DR200, but this is easier...


and within a few minutes, she was all smiles again, bleeding and all.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:40 AM   #6386
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Has anyone ever used bicycle panniers on your motorcycle? They seem to be more readily available, and, importantly, a fair sight cheaper.

For context, I am mentally gearing up for a future minimalist tour on my new (to me) TU250
Only on a bicycle. One thing to watch out for is the mounting system: my Nashbar waterproof panniers (which actually were waterproof) mounted via 3 wire hooks, which hooked into the rack up top and the dropout down below.
Only $50, amazing for the price and size 2310 ci / 38 liters. See http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...82_-1___202599
I assume these are the same rolltops as the ones I used a few years ago on a two-wheel recumbent.
Nashbar has several other affordable options

Some others require / provide a mount system that is attached permanently to the rack.

The next two options are both at or over $200, so skip if that is a barrier.

On my recumbent trike, I've used Radical 'banana' pannier bags, 55 liters but expensive. http://www.icetrikes.co/explore-our-...t/accessories#
Scroll down to the Radical M bags. I've eyeballed them on the Yammie YBR125, and they seem to fit fine as long as I can keep them above the exhaust (which is quite low slung). Their big advantage is that they are a bit more streamlined than most. If you have a wide rack, the rear strap may need to be extended a bit: it fits but is a little tight on the stock YBR rack.
These are also available directly from Radical (https://www.radicaldesign.nl/en/prod.../side-panniers, I assume there is still a US distributor. Radical has a bigger variety, up to 70 liters, although these could impact the exhaust on the YBR.
Expensive, they will run you well over USD200.
One advantage on my YBR is that they move the weight down and forward compared to normal saddlebags.

What I use most are the Ortlieb Dry saddlebags: http://www.aerostich.com/bags/seat-b...addlebags.html

These were among the last items I bought from Aerostich / Riderwearhouse before I put them on my 'do not support' list several years back.
Unlike the riding pants I bought from them, these work perfectly, fit well on the TE610E, the YBR125G, and my Zongshen 'Fly' 200 dual sport (although the Zong requires the front straps to be extended or an additional webbing loop).
They are waterproof (if you close them properly) and quite crash resistant, as I have come down twice with them on the bike and very little observable damage other than a few small scuff marks.
Although that is as much credit to the Zong as anything, that bike is amazing for the price, lots of small design features to make it more crash proof.
Again, a bit spendy ($200), but way cheaper than hard bags which IMHO would not sustain most crashes as well, plus the softbags put much less strain on the fame / subframe and so on in rough going.
They have around 5000 miles on them, a lot of it quite rough going and loaded to the max.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:45 AM   #6387
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These are large and CHEAP at $29 at tractor supply store. If you search for that brand name on ebay they come in different colors and configurations as well. I bought but returned as I checked my old GIVI scooter saddlebags after wards and they seemed more adjustable.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...l-x-4-1-2-in-d



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Old 04-28-2013, 08:39 AM   #6388
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Has anyone ever used bicycle panniers on your motorcycle? They seem to be more readily available, and, importantly, a fair sight cheaper.

For context, I am mentally gearing up for a future minimalist tour on my new (to me) TU250
I'm loving the Nashbar dry bag panniers, got large ones, waterproof built in reflection, very durable, river boat type material. $50. Working on how I want to mount. Holds a lot of gear.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:49 PM   #6389
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Thanks everybody. I thought this would probably work.

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These are large and CHEAP at $29 at tractor supply store. If you search for that brand name on ebay they come in different colors and configurations as well. I bought but returned as I checked my old GIVI scooter saddlebags after wards and they seemed more adjustable.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...l-x-4-1-2-in-d



Now that is an option I hadn't considered. Kinda dumb of me, considering we call them saddlebags...
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:51 PM   #6390
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I am looking to sell my 2013 Honda CRF 250l dual sport. I have installed new sprockets changing the gearing from 14/40 (stock) to 13/42. I have installed an FMF Powercore 4 muffler on it. I have installed new handlebar grips. I have installed a yoshimura fender eliminating kit with LED light. This bike has less then 1,000 miles on it. It is fuel injected, chain driven, and electric start (so no struggling with kick starting) The bike has been dropped a few times but no major damage was done just minor scratches that are typical when riding off road. It still looks clean and rides better then stock because of the modifications. The only reason I am looking to sell this bike is to buy a touring bike for my wife and I, otherwise I would keep it. Please email me if you are interested. I am not looking to make money off of this bike, just to break even. I will include a helmet, gloves, honda book bag, a rear luggage rack, all the original parts, and a motorcycle cover if purchased. Email me at kmjinks@yahoo.com or call me 804-477-5446.
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