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Old 02-10-2007, 09:40 AM   #76
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And to do it with a 3-wheeler aimed at the waning old-fart market ".

Why oh why couldn't they have launched a Can-Am "Superbe Motard" instead.
In the USA, the baby-boomers still have all the money. They will continue to have it until they start dying in about 15 years, or so.

Baby boomers start turning 62 in 2008 at the rate of 10-million to 15-million people per year, for 15-years.

If you look at the popularity of HD and Goldwing trike conversions in the USA, you will see this is a growing market.

At only $15k, this Can-Am will be a minimum of 1/2 the price of the conversion trikes.

It will sell, and it will sell well to a diverse crowd of people.

It will bring quad and jet-ski customers, who would never ride on two wheels, over to a street-oriented product.

It will sell to older riders who don't want a sidecar or traditional trike.

This thing will sell like hotcakes.

If I owned a dealership, I'd be looking at adding these to my lineup.
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:36 AM   #77
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It's as wide as a car and steers like a car. I'll take this instead thanks.
Not for $16,000.

Whether the Spyder is my cup o' tea or not, I think it will sell like hotcakes at that price. Most of you guys are young and can't imagine yourself being older and having difficulty holding up a 700 pound bike with a passenger perched on the pillion seat. But, time marches on, and there are plenty of guys that want to keep riding with mama, but just don't have the muscle to do it, especially with touring bikes getting heavier and fatter all the time.

Personally, I'd rather have the Piaggio MP3 since it leans. But they are gonna have to put something more than 250cc's in it if they want to sell many of them in the U.S.
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:53 AM   #78
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Here are the specs from the brochure:

Engine
Manufacturer................................BRP-Rotax
Type.............................................. 990 V-Twin
Displacement...............................60.90 in3 (998cc)
Bore.............................................. 3.82 in (97 mm)
Stroke...........................................2 .68 in (68 mm)
Cylinder........................................2
Valves per cylinder.......................DOHC 4
Max output...................................106 hp @ 8500 rpm
(79 kW @ 8500 rpm)
Max torque...................................77 lb-ft @ 6250 rpm
(104.3 Nm @ 6250 rpm)
Compression ratio........................10.8:1
Ignition type.................................Electronic ignition with
dual output coil
Lubrication....................................5W4 0 BRP synthetic oil
Exhaust system.............................2-into-1 with catalytic converter
Cooling.........................................Li quid cooled
Injection........................................M ulti-point EFI with 57 mm
diameter throttle bodies

Drive Train
Gear box......................................Sequentia l Manual 5-Speed (SM5)
with transmission-based reverse
Optional gear box........................Sequential Electronic 5-Speed (SE5)
with transmission-based reverse
Final drive.....................................28/79 ratio final drive with
Carbon-reinforced drive belt
Clutch...........................................W et, multi-plate, manual operation
through a hydraulic piston

Electric Equipment
Magneto.......................................500 Watt
Starter........................................... Electric
Battery..........................................D ry Cell, 12V, 21 Amp

Geometry
Front suspnsion..........................Double A-Arm with anti-roll bar
Front suspension travel................5.67 in (144 mm) with adjustable cam
Rear suspension...........................Swing-arm with monoshock
Rear suspension travel.................5.71 in (145 mm) with adjustable cam
Chassis type.................................SST Spyder
(Surrounding Spar Technology)
Steering........................................DP S (Dynamic Power Steering)


Tires & Wheels
Front tire.......................................KR21 165/65R14
Front nominal pressure................13-17 psi (89-117 kPa)
Rear tire........................................KR21 225/50R15
Rear nominal pressure..................13-17 psi (89-117 kPa)
Wheel size, front...........................Aluminum 14x5 (355x127)
Wheel size, rear............................Aluminum 15x7 (381x178)

Brakes
Type..........................................Foot-actuated, fully integrated
hydraulic 3-wheel braking system
Front braking system................4 piston calipers with 10.2 in x 0.25 in
(260 mm x 6 mm) discs
Rear braking system.................Single-piston caliper with 10.2 in x 0.25 in
(260 mm x 6 mm) disc
EBD..........................................Elect ronic Brake Distribution
ABS...........................................Anti-lock Braking System
Parking brake...........................Mechanical, foot actuated to the
rear caliper

Safety & Security
VSS...........................................Vehi cle Stability System
ABS...........................................Anti-lock Braking System
TCS...........................................Trac tion Control System
SCS...........................................Stab ility Control System with
Roll-Over Mitigation
DPS...........................................Dyna mic Power Steering
DESS.........................................Digit ally Encoded Security System


Vehicle Dimensions & Weights
Dry vehicle weight....................697 lbs (316 kg)
Front storage capacity.............2,685 in3 (44 l)
Front max load capacity...........30 lbs (15.9 kg)
Total vehicle load allowed........440 lbs (200 kg)
Fuel capacity............................7.13 US gal (27 l)
Oil capacity..............................1.19 US gal (4.5 l)
Coolant capacity......................0.85 US gal (3.2 l)
GVWR.......................................1,188 lbs (540 kg)
Ground clearance.....................4.5 in (115 mm)
Vehicle overall height...............45.1 in (1,145 mm)
Vehicle overall length...............105 in (2,667 mm)
Vehicle overall width................59.3 in (1,506 mm)
Seat (top) height.......................29 in (737 mm)
Wheel base..............................68 in (1,727 mm)
Wheel track, front.....................51.5 in (1,308 mm)
Type of gas...............................Unleaded, 87 octane minimum

Color choices...........................Full Moon, Millennium Yellow

Instrumentation........................Dual analog and LCD w/speedometer, tachometer, electric fuel gauge, daily trip (A & B) meters, engine
temperature, ambient temperature and gear position indicator. Information
displayed in either metric or US Standards

Main options............................Fog lights, xenon lights, mono seat cover, racing exhaust pipe, travel bags, cargo liner, passenger backrest, low and high windshields
Warranty...................................2 years
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Old 02-10-2007, 11:27 AM   #79
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I don't think the appeal will be just "the older crowd" or "the Ski-Doo/water craft crowd" or "the physically challenged crowd". I'm 42, in good shape, look ten years younger than my age and feel ten years younger than that...I think the Spyder is a very interesting machine and I see it stretching my riding season to nearly 12mos here in Alberta. I would likely keep the B12 or something like it for some rides but I could see riding the Spyder on a daily basis as a commuter and also as a primary tourer...hell I'd even take it out to track days for shits and giggles
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Old 02-10-2007, 12:07 PM   #80
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Wink Sicles...

The Rotax motor is a known quantity (hop on any full size Aprilia Mille, Futura, Caponord, Tuono and you get the idea pretty quick what it can do).

What I want to know is about the handling! Hi vs. LOW speed. Is it awkward in parking lots etc... That will be the deciding factor for many. Does it put a smile on your face mile after mile?

Will Iron Butt Association let it compete??

So many Can Am questions...
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Old 02-10-2007, 05:38 PM   #81
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That MP3 is dumb. The Sypder is a bit of a mystery to me, it looks like tons of fun at first glance, but the more I think about it the more it sounds less fun. I think I'll have to ride one to really "get it".
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Old 02-10-2007, 06:37 PM   #82
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That thing is friggin rediculous. Another great Canadian idea. EH?
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:39 AM   #83
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Greetings and salutations, ORT. Your ToadKing was indeed a gorgeous bike - one of the best looking bikes I've seen in a long time. But, bikes are like women in that regard - looks aren't everything, especially for one that you consider to be a long term keeper.

I trust you and yours are doing well. Ride safe on your trip to AZ, and give the Senator my regards.
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:04 PM   #84
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I'm here in San Diego at the Can-Am spyder unveiling, it's the coolest bike I've ever ridden. The 990 rotax is smooth a produces gobs of torque. I've gone to the tech seminars and rode the bike, it goes like hell, handles like it's on rails and is as comfy as a gold wing with out looking like a scooter. I will have one in the stable, on the road nothing seams to upset it, it goes through potholes and over bridge seams like they don't exist, it has a 44 L trunk in the front and mant accessories already available for it. Oh, it does great burn outs, that fat tire lights right up with a twist of the throttle.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:18 PM   #85
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Can Am Spyder

Can Am launched their new 3 wheeled Spyder thing here in San Diego this weekend. My first impression is that it's the type of thing that might be fun to rent for a weekend, but I'd never buy one. I feel the same way about jetskis and Harleys.
They look more like an oversized sled or PWC with wheels than they look like a bike. Only the rear wheel looks bikeish. Nice exhaust note tho'. Local press reported that they're targeted at 40-55yo boomers whose wife won't let them get a bike!

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:22 PM   #86
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I'm guessing they are banking on them being popular with the Snowmobile/ATV crowd.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:22 PM   #87
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Aww, I thought you were talking about this:



Trikes... Feh... If you want a bike, get a bike! You can always put a sidecar on.
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Old 02-11-2007, 10:59 PM   #88
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I'm here in San Diego at the Can-Am spyder unveiling, it's the coolest bike I've ever ridden. The 990 rotax is smooth a produces gobs of torque. I've gone to the tech seminars and rode the bike, it goes like hell, handles like it's on rails and is as comfy as a gold wing with out looking like a scooter. I will have one in the stable, on the road nothing seams to upset it, it goes through potholes and over bridge seams like they don't exist, it has a 44 L trunk in the front and mant accessories already available for it. Oh, it does great burn outs, that fat tire lights right up with a twist of the throttle.
ABS going to be an option?
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:33 AM   #89
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abs, vss (vehicle stability control, traction control, and anti theft is all standard equipment. Options are back rest for passenger, 3 different height windshields, driving lights, many different bags, race pipe, custom wheels and custom leather seat covers. Again, it's the coolest thing I've ever seen. and the most fun to ride.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:10 PM   #90
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I'm here in San Diego at the Can-Am spyder unveiling, it's the coolest bike I've ever ridden. The 990 rotax is smooth a produces gobs of torque. I've gone to the tech seminars and rode the bike, it goes like hell, handles like it's on rails and is as comfy as a gold wing with out looking like a scooter. I will have one in the stable, on the road nothing seams to upset it, it goes through potholes and over bridge seams like they don't exist, it has a 44 L trunk in the front and mant accessories already available for it. Oh, it does great burn outs, that fat tire lights right up with a twist of the throttle.
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