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Old 02-13-2007, 03:43 PM   #91
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What are they fooling sround with this 3-wheeled crap for anyway?
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Old 02-13-2007, 04:46 PM   #92
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What are they fooling sround with this 3-wheeled crap for anyway?
you might get your wish

- last years buzz - Buell in talks with Bombardier/Rotax for engines
- this years buzz - Buell to make dirt bikes within the next 2 years

odds? who knows - but you might just get your wish.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:20 AM   #93
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I really like it. I mean, it doesn't lean which sucks,
That shouldn't be a worry. It'll give a whole different set of grins as you power drift around corners with the stability control mediating unruly behaviour. No risk of lowside. Power out using a good dollop of that V-twin grunt, knowing that traction control is at standby. Hey, technology doesn't work miracles. But it's nice to have.

You just need to be less static with your upper body. Kind of like with snowmobiles. I would think that Spyder will be a hoot to scoot through the twisties.

Maybe more importantly, it might allow a rider to go off and explore with more confidence when sport touring. A typical hardpack or gravel road no longer causes the same concern when you're touring far from home and ladden with luggage. Just go off for a look-see. If things get too tight, just throw it in reverse and pull off a snug u-turn and head back.

Never in danger of dropping it. And it provides all the sensations of riding.

Here's another perspective: BRP Can-Am Spyder First Look



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Old 02-14-2007, 05:20 AM   #94
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BRP, CanAM-SkiDoo

I like the concept, should be similar to riding a snow machine without the inherent drag of the skis and track slowing you down.

BRP set the snowmobiling world on its ear about 5 years ago with their REV sled which pioneered a rider-forward, centralized mass design. The other manufacturers are still trying to catch up. BRP is set to intro the REV2 sled in a couple of weeks that is rumored to be another leap forward. Direct injection 2-stroke motors (ala BRP Evinrude) are supposed to be in the pipeline also.

This CanAm hybrid might find a home in my garage in a couple of years.
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:35 AM   #95
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That shouldn't be a worry. It'll give a whole different set of grins as you power drift around corners with the stability control mediating unruly behaviour. No risk of lowside. Power out using a good dollop of that V-twin grunt, knowing that traction control is at standby. Hey, technology doesn't work miracles. But it's nice to have.
Sounds like power drifting is out of the question, unfortunately. According to this article

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...opanel..1.*#18

the electronic nannies kick in before it gets interesting, and there is no "off " switch for the stability control.
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:38 AM   #96
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:40 AM   #97
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Sounds like power drifting is out of the question, unfortunately. According to this article

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...opanel..1.*#18

the electronic nannies kick in before it gets interesting, and there is no "off " switch for the stability control.
Even in the tadpole configuration, it could still roll over fairly easy if you got ass happy without proper skill. And that would kinda ruin the point of the extra wheel.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:15 AM   #98
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Even in the tadpole configuration, it could still roll over fairly easy if you got ass happy without proper skill. And that would kinda ruin the point of the extra wheel.
60+"wheelbase, 52" track width, and the center of gravity is probably somewhere about the centerline of the front wheels - you'd have to clip something to get enought rotation to roll it over. Did you happen to notice the driving inpression paragraph farther down about it corners faster than you think....stability & traction control are the flip side of liability laws, and lawsuits.

of course they'll tell you theres no off switch - they're not gonna promote it by telling you to pull a fuse, or clip a sensor wire.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:21 PM   #99
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Sounds like power drifting is out of the question, unfortunately.
the electronic nannies kick in before it gets interesting, and there is no "off " switch for the stability control.

BRP is using a proven system on the Spyder. Bosch were pioneers in this area in the automotive sector. It wasn't that long ago that their systems were only available in high-zoot$$$ cars.

So it's not like you are drifting with abandon. But every system needs to first detect and then it mediates. Learn to live in that gap between mediation and no mediation.

That means that you can be pushing the grin factor a little more than you might on a 2 wheel motorcycle, where the risk of sand or gravel-related low-side is always present.

I'm really looking forward to trying it. Not those chaperoned test rides where you really cannot experience much about its actual performance enveloppe.


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Old 02-14-2007, 08:43 PM   #100
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3-Wheelers...Holy Sheep Dip!

LA Times ran an article about this monster, and a few others, today. Did some poking around, and bumped into a few more. I'm not sure what's more unbelievable, the design/horsepower, or that it's Canadian.

They've got a cool 360 degree Flash site here. Click the language link.
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:44 PM   #101
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:45 PM   #102
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:52 PM   #103
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Intriguing, but I just can't see myself on a trike just yet.. and even then, I'm not sure at which end I'd like the single wheel located..
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:59 PM   #104
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there's been a thread running about the bombardier for quite some time already

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202023
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:24 PM   #105
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Here's a link to Cycle World's first ride report, as may be expected, its pretty much the same thing Car and Driver said.

http://www.cycleworld.com/article.as...article_id=282

Maybe a lead-weight wearing passenger is necessary if the front trunk is full.
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