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Old 02-18-2007, 05:04 PM   #1
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Poor man's arai XD

like the xd idea of a shielded dirtbike helmet, but didn't want to pay the price?
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motor...met/hjc/cl-xs/
that is when it's available in the US.
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:06 PM   #2
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You've posted a truncated URL and whatever cheap helmet you've bought, will it offer anywhere near the protection of an Arai...?
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:09 PM   #3
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You've posted a truncated URL and whatever cheap helmet you've bought, will it offer anywhere near the protection of an Arai...?
i didn't say i bought toughguy. so bit my wire.
i actually own an XD but was trying to pass along info for others.
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:59 PM   #4
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You've posted a truncated URL and whatever cheap helmet you've bought, will it offer anywhere near the protection of an Arai...?

An HJC dosen't offer anywhere near the protection of an Arai? I'd like to see the documentation to back up that statement. Sounds like bull shit to me.
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Old 02-18-2007, 06:05 PM   #5
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Not a bad looking helmet. I like the fit of the ac-x2. I'm about to buy that for a dirt only lid and keep the XD for the dual sporting.

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DOT is DOT isn't it? Is there hard core proof out there (let's not argue SNELL right now) that a 500 dollar lid provides more protection? Is the difference mostly weight and the fine details...like noise, quality of vents, etc?

I've seen folks in expensive cars with near endless airbags, etc die while the guy in the inexpensive car with no safety features other than a seatbelt survive. I have a hard time accepting "safety only for people with the $$$ for expensive stuff."

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Old 02-18-2007, 06:18 PM   #6
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There was a sign in the motorcycle shop where I worked as a kid. It said "If you have a $2.00 head, wear a $2.00 helmet."

I've taken that to heart since I saw a good friend of mine have a collision with a car outside of the high school parking lot. This was 1982, and she had a Bell fullface helmet. The helmet was shattered at the chin piece, but she had no head injuries, though numerous other injuries.

I have an XD now and am going to get another full face as well.

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Old 02-18-2007, 06:19 PM   #7
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An HJC dosen't offer anywhere near the protection of an Arai? I'd like to see the documentation to back up that statement. Sounds like bull shit to me.
Crash studies have showed that a big $ full face DOT helmet protects no better than a low budget full face DOT Helmet.
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Old 02-18-2007, 06:32 PM   #8
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There was a sign in the motorcycle shop where I worked as a kid. It said "If you have a $2.00 head, wear a $2.00 helmet."
And if it is that easy to persuade someone to put down that much cash for a helmet that doesn't actually offer more protection (comfort yes, protection no) then, well, maybe the person actually DOES have a $2.00 head ....

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Old 02-18-2007, 07:18 PM   #9
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There was a sign in the motorcycle shop where I worked as a kid. It said "If you have a $2.00 head, wear a $2.00 helmet."

I've taken that to heart since I saw a good friend of mine have a collision with a car outside of the high school parking lot. This was 1982, and she had a Bell fullface helmet. The helmet was shattered at the chin piece, but she had no head injuries, though numerous other injuries.

I have an XD now and am going to get another full face as well.

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That's the same old shite that comes out every time helmets are mentioned. If a helmet passes the apporpriate tests then other factors aside (cost, personal comfort, noise, access to spares etc.) that's good enough.

Where's the limit then ? You have a $200 or a $300 head ? How about $1,000 ?
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Old 02-18-2007, 08:02 PM   #10
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There was a sign in the motorcycle shop where I worked as a kid. It said "If you have a $2.00 head, wear a $2.00 helmet."
Did they happen to sell helmets? I would be more impressed if I saw that sign in hospitals or at the DMV or from the MSF.

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I've taken that to heart since I saw a good friend of mine have a collision with a car outside of the high school parking lot. This was 1982, and she had a Bell fullface helmet. The helmet was shattered at the chin piece, but she had no head injuries, though numerous other injuries.
This example doesn't speak to the difference in prices...only that a helmet saved her.
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Old 02-18-2007, 09:13 PM   #11
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Personally I hope they bring more of these type helmets to the USA in the near future!!

I currently use a modular street helmet because I like the flip shield rather than goggles and a street full face doesn't offer enough breathing room when you find yourself on a tight technical trail.

I have several helmets including an Arai full face.(that's spent most of it's life on a shelf) I would like to have an XD and may just have to buy one if the competition doesn't get it's act in gear!

btw I think an HJC may even be a better helmet than the Arai! The last helmet test I seen a $79 lid won for best impact protection!!
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:48 AM   #12
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Anyone who uses that $2 head line is ill-informed. Need I point everyone ONCE AGAIN to the infamous "Motorcyclist" article regarding helmet safety?

And besides, I have a ONE MILLION DOLLAR head, so I guess I am shit out of luck 'cause I can't seem to find a $1,000,000 helmet. Maybe I'll find one at the motorcycle show this weekend...

I still say for the money my $150 Scorpion VX-17 is the best helmet I have ever owned, including my Shoei.

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Old 02-19-2007, 06:58 AM   #13
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Forget about price point, what if the XD doesn't fit your head shape? You're SOL because there's no other choice. A helmet that doesn't fit right isn't safer than one that does, no matter how expensive it is.

Anyway, to get back to the OP, according to this thread the US distributor of HJC helmets has absolutely no interest in bringing the CL-XS to the US. It's a shame, between the CL-XS, Shoei Hornet, and the Airoh S4 and Tyger, riders have a choice of DS helmets in Europe, but none of those alternatives are available here. Some folks will have these helmets shipped from overseas on their own, but I'd be nervous about buying a helmet that I couldn't try on in person first. Well, I might be willing to take a chance on a CL-XS since I have an HJC AC-X3 that fits me well, but the shipping charges are a deal breaker...
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:06 AM   #14
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I like those scorpion helmets, Flux. I just wish they had a modular. I've been looking at the AGV Miglia as well. I would put the comfort of the Scorpion up there with the top $$$ helmets I have tried, but I've only worn them for about an hour and not on a bike.



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And besides, I have a ONE MILLION DOLLAR head,
This is why it takes three estimates. I would have said about $37.50.

How about this? It even has a visor.

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Old 02-19-2007, 07:09 AM   #15
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Jet, Is there a fit difference between the AC-X2 and X3? Like most helmet websites, the HJC gives so great info. Is the X3 just a repalcement for the X2 or is it different fitting X2 shaped like Arai and X3 shaped like Shoei or something like that?
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