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Old 02-19-2007, 03:37 AM   #1
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XR650R vs XR650L maintenance - how demanding?

XR owners...
Because the XR650R is more 'race bred' than the 650L, I assume it needs more maintenance for it to stay happy - more frequent oil changes, service intervals, etc?

If so, would this also apply if the 650R is used for non-race usage? Just putting around, city riding, gentle trails, etc?
Would she still be more demanding on maintenance than the XRL with similar usage?

Sorry about all these XRR/XRL/DR questions, I'm trying to figure something out here....
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:43 AM   #2
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XR owners...
Because the XR650R is more 'race bred' than the 650L, I assume it needs more maintenance for it to stay happy - more frequent oil changes, service intervals, etc?

If so, would this also apply if the 650R is used for non-race usage? Just putting around, city riding, gentle trails, etc?
Would she still be more demanding on maintenance than the XRL with similar usage?

Sorry about all these XRR/XRL/DR questions, I'm trying to figure something out here....
One tricky thing is to determine if you will really ride it easy--or if the throttle will be too tempting. I ride a Yamaha FZ1, and the throttle is too tempting for me, every time. I'll just be tootling down a country road, and I I just have to roll on and roll off and roll on and roll off.

I've read from many that you have to change the oil in an XR650R every 1000 miles. Recently, I did read from one guy that he changed his every 1500-2000 miles for his XR650R.

I think the XR650L is more like every 3000-4000 miles for an oil change.

I don't remember what others have said about valve check frequency.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:03 AM   #3
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Well, I have had my R only about 2 years so I may not be the best to answer, but here goes ...

Valves, adjusted once since I have owned the bike. Just before our recent trip to Mexico.

Oil, every now and again, about every third ride. It takes me longer to move stuff and get the bike out to warm it up than do the oil change.

Air filters are a pain IMHO, but I use filter skins to keep the work down.

I even washed it a while back.

I should mention that I ride the bike about 90% off road and manage to accumulate 5K ~ 6K in miles per year. Sorry to sound vague, but my GPS is my only source of an ODO.

I have a buddy that has over 30K on his '00 and at least 10K on his '04 and his experiences mirror mine except he manages to wash his more often.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:00 AM   #4
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The L oil change is every 1500 miles, 2 qts only protect for so long.
Nothing on either bike is hard to do.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:00 AM   #5
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XR owners...
Because the XR650R is more 'race bred' than the 650L, I assume it needs more maintenance for it to stay happy - more frequent oil changes, service intervals, etc?

If so, would this also apply if the 650R is used for non-race usage? Just putting around, city riding, gentle trails, etc?
Would she still be more demanding on maintenance than the XRL with similar usage?

Sorry about all these XRR/XRL/DR questions, I'm trying to figure something out here....
Good question! I'm wondering the same thing. bump...
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:06 AM   #6
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I've had both and they are typical Honda's. As long as you keep oil in them they'll run forever! Valves are easy (threaded adjusters). The L holds a little bit more oil. They are both great machines for their intended purpose.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:49 AM   #7
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The L oil change is every 1500 miles, 2 qts only protect for so long.
Nothing on either bike is hard to do.
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Mine's usually about out of oil at 2k miles.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:55 AM   #8
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apples and oranges, the R is liquid cooled and a higher compression ratio. The L is air cooled and lean jetted to meet emissions so it tends to run hot if you haven't rejetted.
I usually change the oil in my L around 800 to 1000 miles but my engine is bumped up a bit and I run a K&N mostly offroad. The oil stays pretty clean until 600 miles or so then it starts getting dirty looking.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:48 AM   #9
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Honda manual XR650L oil change is 2k, filter every 4K.
Valves are 100 hrs.
I use synthetic and change my filter every 2k on my L it doesn't take any longer and I feel better doing it. A dealer recommended that I check the valves every 6 months.
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Old 02-19-2007, 02:27 PM   #10
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Honda manual XR650L oil change is 2k, filter every 4K.
Valves are 100 hrs.
Anyone got the manual recommendations for the 650R?
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:33 PM   #11
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Anyone got the manual recommendations for the 650R?
It's 600miles for R, 2000 for L
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:43 PM   #12
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As far as the oil capacity, I suspect the L needs more oil since air cooled motors tend to run a bit hotter in the slow going, The 600 mile schedule of the R model is based off not being used on the street, be interesting to see what they say for the 600R...I bet it is not that far off the 650R, I could be wrong.
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:49 PM   #13
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Maintenance of a machine is highly depended on the usage.

If you ride a XR650L aggressively, it would probably require more maintenance than a mildly ridden XR650R.
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Old 02-19-2007, 09:19 PM   #14
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Both are good bikes. I own a 00 R with about 35,000 miles on it. Had the motor torn down and rebuilt at 18,000 miles. Nothing was broken just thought it was time. According to the folks at Precision Concepts who did the work the only thing it really needed was a intake vavle job and rings. Most of my riding had been aggressive off road in dusty conditions. One problem with the R is that the air filter will be dirty in just one days riding if it's dusty, even when riding alone. It's mandetory to change filters often. I've beaten the living hell out of mine and it's never let me down. Ridden in the same way I would want to maintain an L in the same way as my R. IMHO the maintainence effort is very similar with the exception of the air filter.

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Old 02-19-2007, 10:45 PM   #15
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It's 600miles for R, 2000 for L

Dang, that's a big difference in oil change intervals. Makes the R seem really fragile.
They probably did have 600 competition miles in mind though....?
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