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Old 03-13-2012, 11:16 PM   #11551
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Hi Mark,

With just over 130,000 km's travelled on a DR I have used most tyre combos. Without a doubt the T63 IMO are the best all round compromise. Grip great on the dirt, on the bitumen they are fantastic, in the rain they are the best I have used, run quieter than most knobbies and get good mileage. Fit into the back no problem at all.

Cheers - Ron.
I'll second that.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:28 AM   #11552
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Hi Mark,

With just over 130,000 km's travelled on a DR I have used most tyre combos. Without a doubt the T63 IMO are the best all round compromise. Grip great on the dirt, on the bitumen they are fantastic, in the rain they are the best I have used, run quieter than most knobbies and get good mileage. Fit into the back no problem at all.

Cheers - Ron.
G'day Ron,
Have you ever used the MT21 front E07 rear combo? If so, how'd you rate them against the others you have used? With all your km's on the DR I'd be interested in your opinion. I know from this forum that quite a few others apart from myself have them on. I've only used this or MT21's front and rear, so don't have much to compare with.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:19 AM   #11553
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Hi Mark,

With just over 130,000 km's travelled on a DR I have used most tyre combos. Without a doubt the T63 IMO are the best all round compromise. Grip great on the dirt, on the bitumen they are fantastic, in the rain they are the best I have used, run quieter than most knobbies and get good mileage. Fit into the back no problem at all.

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How much is good mileage?
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:24 AM   #11554
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How much is good mileage?
Aaargh now there is a very subjective question and a real potential "can of worms" opener!

Some people tend to run their tyres far beyond the effective tread limit and then claim they get huge mileage (even though the bike handled poorly and was unsafe to ride those last couple of thousand km's).

So if I say xxxx km's some will roll around the floor laughing how bad that is and others will consider that a pretty fair effort. How hard or careful I ride, the tyre pressures I run and my attitude regarding at what level of wear I replace my tyres are the biggest factor in tyre mileage.

So how many km's do I normally get from Michelin T63? For perspective.....

More than MT21, D606 or the stock Trail Wings.
About the same as a Kenda KT966, Maxxis 6006 or Vee Rubber VRM147 but with better handling.
Less than E07 or Tourance but with better grip on all surfaces and better handling.
Less than Pirelli Scorpion or Michelin Anakee but with better grip off road.

So for my preferred type of riding (daily commute with weekend trail riding and long distance adventure riding plus the odd thrash over Mt Glorious (bitumen)) the tyres that work best for me are the T63 front and rear.

Generally I replace the rear at around 4,000 km's and the front around 10,000 - 12,000 km's. Still plenty of "life" left in the tyres at that point but the bikes grip and handling have begun to deteriorate. As riding is the most fun thing I do, compromising handling thus my safety and riding enjoyment by saving a couple of bucks on tyres doesn't seem like good value to me.

And no I don't work for Michelin.

Cheers, Ron. .
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:38 AM   #11555
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Ron, you're a bloody legend. Just came across the specials at teammoto and was getting confused again (that happens alot). T63 fitted and balanced for $215 iirc vs $199 for 606's.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:32 PM   #11556
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Aaargh now there is a very subjective question and a real potential "can of worms" opener!

Some people tend to run their tyres far beyond the effective tread limit and then claim they get huge mileage (even though the bike handled poorly and was unsafe to ride those last couple of thousand km's).

So if I say xxxx km's some will roll around the floor laughing how bad that is and others will consider that a pretty fair effort. How hard or careful I ride, the tyre pressures I run and my attitude regarding at what level of wear I replace my tyres are the biggest factor in tyre mileage.

So how many km's do I normally get from Michelin T63? For perspective.....

More than MT21, D606 or the stock Trail Wings.
About the same as a Kenda KT966, Maxxis 6006 or Vee Rubber VRM147 but with better handling.
Less than E07 or Tourance but with better grip on all surfaces and better handling.
Less than Pirelli Scorpion or Michelin Anakee but with better grip off road.

So for my preferred type of riding (daily commute with weekend trail riding and long distance adventure riding plus the odd thrash over Mt Glorious (bitumen)) the tyres that work best for me are the T63 front and rear.

Generally I replace the rear at around 4,000 km's and the front around 10,000 - 12,000 km's. Still plenty of "life" left in the tyres at that point but the bikes grip and handling have begun to deteriorate. As riding is the most fun thing I do, compromising handling thus my safety and riding enjoyment by saving a couple of bucks on tyres doesn't seem like good value to me.

And no I don't work for Michelin.

Cheers, Ron. .
Great post !

Bikes are a very poor finacial decision in the first place, trying to get a few thousand extra klms at the expense of both fun and safety is an even poorer financial decision.

What sort of pressures are you running in those T63's for road and offroad and with HD or UHD tubes ?
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:55 PM   #11557
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Great post !

Bikes are a very poor finacial decision in the first place, trying to get a few thousand extra klms at the expense of both fun and safety is an even poorer financial decision.

Agree totally. Cop a fair bit of flak for replacing tyres that have "heaps left in them". If you do the maths, those last kms on rooted tyres save you bugger all but massively increase the risk of ending up on your arse.

Was heading down the path of an E07 606 combo but after reading the above am interested in the T63s.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:15 AM   #11558
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Aaargh now there is a very subjective question and a real potential "can of worms" opener!



So for my preferred type of riding (daily commute with weekend trail riding and long distance adventure riding plus the odd thrash over Mt Glorious (bitumen)) the tyres that work best for me are the T63 front and rear.
And no I don't work for Michelin.

Cheers, Ron. .
So does anyone know a good place online to purchase bike tyres. The only site I found is: http://procycles.com.au/products.php...torcycle+Tyres - $149 + $10 postage. Does this seem like a good price??

thanks heaps
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:17 AM   #11559
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dunlop 605 rear

..........and since we're on the subject of tyres (i know, an endless subject). Has anyone tried dunlop D605 for the rears. Seem like a good all rounder. http://www.dunloptyres.com.au/dotCMS...&mtpcode=80134

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Old 03-15-2012, 12:37 AM   #11560
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Replaced the Trailwings with E07s f+b on my 2010 dr650.Good on road,but no confidence in front tyre at all off road!!Been down several times, in mud,ruts,clay, dirt,wet grass,etc.Need good tyre to improve ridin' skills,so either T63 or 606..............606 f/EO7 b seems popular.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:46 AM   #11561
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So does anyone know a good place online to purchase bike tyres. The only site I found is: http://procycles.com.au/products.php...torcycle+Tyres - $149 + $10 postage. Does this seem like a good price??

thanks heaps
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located brisbane brendale.seems a good bloke 0738810033

605 were only available in 120width when i used them
for me they dont wear or grip as well as a 606 road or dirt
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:47 AM   #11562
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Replaced the Trailwings with E07s f+b on my 2010 dr650.Good on road,but no confidence in front tyre at all off road!!Been down several times, in mud,ruts,clay, dirt,wet grass,etc.Need good tyre to improve ridin' skills,so either T63 or 606..............606 f/EO7 b seems popular.
I will be definitely putting D606 on the front, as they would be best off road.........not sure how great on the road but good compromise I suppose, as I want to do more bush bashing (leisurely fire trails maybe ).

Currently 100% on the road.........need to get off the black-top soon.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:50 AM   #11563
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So does anyone know a good place online to purchase bike tyres. The only site I found is: http://procycles.com.au/products.php...torcycle+Tyres - $149 + $10 postage. Does this seem like a good price??

thanks heaps

http://www.teammoto.com.au/tyre-cent...e-specials.php
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:10 AM   #11564
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I will be definitely putting D606 on the front, as they would be best off road.........not sure how great on the road but good compromise I suppose, as I want to do more bush bashing (leisurely fire trails maybe ).

Currently 100% on the road.........need to get off the black-top soon.
G'day Mr DR650.I have been ridin' tar for years,honda cb,yamy xs,ducati ss.Bought a postie,but sick of chokin' on dust when bush bashin' with mates!.....Got a DR!Time to get amongst it,SAFELY!
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:44 AM   #11565
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Mate your in Brisbane, hard to go past Team Moto prices which includes fitting. I buy all mine from the USA but i fit my own, i have no other option price wise.
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