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Old 06-21-2013, 12:19 AM   #13276
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another vote for 606 front,e09 rear
will get you there and back with rubber to spare
I can vote for 606 front. I think I've gotten over 15000 km so far out of it and yeah, its got a few knobs wearing down and this is mainly 80/20 bitumen riding.

I took it bush bashing the other day and the front held up very good under some pretty extreme terrain.

Cannot recommend the above rear tyre as I've never tried it.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:39 AM   #13277
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Just did 6000km on a 606 rear and it still has a 1000km left in it. 3000km dirt 3000 bitumen. The MT 21 front is better than the 606. The MT21 has a lot more feel when getting close to letting go, The 606 is more sudden.
I also have a EO9 that came of the rear with 4000km and its about half worn, The EO9 is a really good tyre but a bitch to change by hand. Just watch what tube you put in if a 130 rear tyre is used, UHDtubes normally are 140 and will fold over inside the 130 tyre causing creases in the tube. As I found out the hard way.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:58 AM   #13278
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Just did 6000km on a 606 rear and it still has a 1000km left in it. 3000km dirt 3000 bitumen. The MT 21 front is better than the 606. The MT21 has a lot more feel when getting close to letting go, The 606 is more sudden.
I also have a EO9 that came of the rear with 4000km and its about half worn, The EO9 is a really good tyre but a bitch to change by hand. Just watch what tube you put in if a 130 rear tyre is used, UHDtubes normally are 140 and will fold over inside the 130 tyre causing creases in the tube. As I found out the hard way.
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That's huge miles on the 606 rear !
I've used a few and am rapt if I get them to last 3-3.5K

Agree on the MT21 being a good front for the DR and the 606 being ordinary - worst front tyre I've used in fact. Might just be my local terrain as some people seem to like em.
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Old 06-21-2013, 01:19 AM   #13279
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[QUOTE=DR Steve;21692776]That's huge miles on the 606 rear !
The last 2000km was in the rain. It may have helped with the wear.
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:35 AM   #13280
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Just did 6000km on a 606 rear and it still has a 1000km left in it. 3000km dirt 3000 bitumen. The MT 21 front is better than the 606. The MT21 has a lot more feel when getting close to letting go, The 606 is more sudden.
I also have a EO9 that came of the rear with 4000km and its about half worn, The EO9 is a really good tyre but a bitch to change by hand. Just watch what tube you put in if a 130 rear tyre is used, UHDtubes normally are 140 and will fold over inside the 130 tyre causing creases in the tube. As I found out the hard way.
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3800ks was the best I ever got from a 606.
the E09 is the only knobby rear I tried that would do CCCCs 4600k trip and
I don't find the mitas rear any worse then the 606 to change (always a bitch)
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:46 AM   #13281
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3800ks was the best I ever got from a 606.
the E09 is the only knobby rear I tried that would do CCCCs 4600k trip and
I don't find the mitas rear any worse then the 606 to change (always a bitch)
I think it all depends on the right hand. On my Husky 610 2500km on a 606 is good, Quick riding with the mates.
On the DR with a 606 I just did Perth to Cooper Pedy via the Anne Beadell then home via the big black strip (via Port Lincoln). KM all depend on how quick and how much throttle. On a long ride when speed is not the main factor getting there is,then the rear tyre km does goes up. I did take a Dunlop 952 with me to try on the Simpson but that never happened. Its now on the Husky to try.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:00 AM   #13282
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The EO9 is a really good tyre but a bitch to fit.
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Metzler style levers and pleanty of liquid dish soap
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:07 AM   #13283
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Metzler style levers and pleanty of liquid dish soap
I used a bar of soap, some water and 2 Kinchrome and one Ballard levers the other day on the side of the road and it was pretty easy. To be honest I was stressing about having to do it after reading how difficult they are suppose to be.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:22 AM   #13284
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I was told years ago, that if you are 'busting ya arse, changing tyres, then you are doing it wrong'

So now if I start struggling, I stop and rethink what I am doing.

I have only just perfected breaking the bead with a tyre lever, which was the only problem I used to have riding alone (can not use someone else's, side stand).

I'd change around a dozen tyres each year and rarely have any problems. So all I can say is 'Practice with only what you carry on your bike'.

I generally run the MT21 on the front, with an E07 on the rear; however, I picked up a cheap 'Michelin T63' a while back, so have fitted it for the winter months.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:42 AM   #13285
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Warming the tyre in the sun if you can helps as well. On another subject , Took the safari tank off yesterday and the aluminium brace at the bottom came off in two pieces , snapped in the middle. Ordered a new one from aqualine over $50.00 (not sure of postage cost).
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:39 AM   #13286
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Warming the tyre in the sun if you can helps as well. On another subject , Took the safari tank off yesterday and the aluminium brace at the bottom came off in two pieces , snapped in the middle. Ordered a new one from aqualine over $50.00 (not sure of postage cost).
Make one out of steel, they last a lot longer
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:33 AM   #13287
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Thanks for the quick replys. Which mitas e09 adventure or dakar?

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Old 06-21-2013, 01:13 PM   #13288
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That's huge miles on the 606 rear ! I've used a few and am rapt if I get them to last 3-3.5KAgree on the MT21 being a good front for the DR and the 606 being ordinary - worst front tyre I've used in fact. Might just be my local terrain as some people seem to like em.
woohoo,my first ever post about tyres. still working up to my first engine oil post.

i can barely get 2000km out of 606 rears but i never seem to get anywhere near the mileage others do with any tyre. the rear is a great all round tyre for the DR imho. i didn't mind the front either, but....

i tried the MT21 front and agree it's better than the 606 front. if you go for team moto's $200 front and rear tyres fitted deal they will do an MT21 front and 606 rear if wanted.

using the mitas E07 rear at the moment, 6000km and it's about to hit that centre bar of rubber which isn't a wear indicator so should have a reasonable amount left to do. that sort of mileage is amazing for me but once the rear starts to hang out on corners it's hard to encourage it back! might go the E09 next time but i figure i won't get any near the same mileage with the knobby,..

i would hate to try and remove the mitas e07on the trail so running ultra heavy duty tubes to minimise the chance of flats.
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Old 06-21-2013, 01:44 PM   #13289
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As said tyre were relative to right wrist, I know i can chew out a 606 or an eo9 in 2000 ks but when doing a long trip I'm a bit more conservative: lol3 I've gotten 6000+ out of both a 606 and eo9 rear, mostly dirt but bitumen towards the end of the run. Mostly use 606's on the front 1200 to 15000 ks good tyre, grip on the dirt can be a bit iffy when worn and muddy.
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:22 PM   #13290
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Thanks for the quick replys. Which mitas e09 adventure or dakar?

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I was advised by one US inmate I think to run the adventure but bought the dakar based on their website and a quick chat with Rob Tauton from Tyres for bikes. When I got my flat at 120km/hr the other day at no stage was the bike out of control or unmanagemable. The extra strength in the side wall may have been a contributing factor.
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