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Old 11-19-2013, 03:33 AM   #3736
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About 7 years ago I did a job that included 164' vertical up 3/8" fillet. They were 4 foot gussets on a Cell tower. The job took about a week and many rolls of wire. When finished, I called the CWI and took an AWS 3G bare wire test. I passed and its the only cert I have. It has got me a few jobs. I am asked for it about once a year. I own a welding shop. I am NOT a rig welder. I make a living. Nothing more.

Saying I am a certified welder is like saying I am a Diesel Mechanic. Neither is important unless I can do the work. I have seen some 3G work done by a guy certified in 3F. It was absolutely terrible. Maybe he has the paper, but he is not a good weldor.

Around 41 I started switching from auto/truck mechanic to weldor. Both are good ways to make a living. I did this because my son took welding at boces and 2 years at Alfred State. He is now 22 and works with me.

Learn the skills. Learn as many process as you can. Don't breathe the fumes. Pass the wiz quiz

It took me about 5 years to become a good tig weldor.

Best of luck. Its a new adventure no matter how you look at it.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:05 AM   #3737
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By all means, soapbox away.
I was not directing my soapbox right at you sorry if I offended. I had just got out of a 2hr meeting about personal when I happened to read your post.

good on you for getting training in a field that allows you to hit the ground running wherever your girlfriend drags you. hope she's hot, because the welding sparks that land on your nuts and your boots sure are!
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:20 AM   #3738
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I was not directing my soapbox right at you sorry if I offended. I had just got out of a 2hr meeting about personal when I happened to read your post.

good on you for getting training in a field that allows you to hit the ground running wherever your girlfriend drags you. hope she's hot, because the welding sparks that land on your nuts and your boots sure are!
No offense taken. I'm pretty hard to insult. Besides, your soapbox-ing was pretty educational. Thanks for your insight. If you've got any more tips, don't hesitate to let me know.

Oh and she is hot, and no, I won't show you pictures.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:35 AM   #3739
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this is all entertaining for me, because my employer LOVES sheepskin qualifications. im not sure how a degree in marine biology would make a better cop, but when I compete for a promotion, id be better off if i had a bachelors degree. I like to tell them "but I got a welding certification... in alaska, in 1995!. And I have 14 years on the street, as a cop. which am I better at?"


Sometimes I would love to be a welder. Go for it! do what it takes to learn how to do it well, and the certifications will probably just come from the training.
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:48 PM   #3740
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Alright, my turn for a question.

After a few years of lots of MIG work, I'm about a month into teaching myself to TIG. I've noticed the Forney auto darkening helmet that always worked marvelously for my MIG work isn't cutting it with the TIG. I don't know if it's just getting old (internal battery shitting out), isn't sensitive enough, doesn't have enough sensors, or what, but when welding, it only stays dark about 75-80% of the time without flashing. No flash burns yet, but it makes it very hard to lay a good bead.

What do I look for in a decent (read; not overly expensive) helmet for TIG'ing? Any specific models to look for? A new helmet is on my Xmas list, but I need to tell the fiance what make/model to get, less she buy me a non-auto helmet with flames on it
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:01 PM   #3741
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Anya cheap helmet I have used flickers with TIG. I use a miller Elite, there are many others.

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Old 11-20-2013, 03:06 PM   #3742
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If you have a Northern Tool nearby, or will buy other tools to save on shipping, I can recommend the helmet in the link. You can spend much more and considerably less for a helmet. Good luck!
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:23 PM   #3743
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If you have a Northern Tool nearby, or will buy other tools to save on shipping, I can recommend the helmet in the link. You can spend much more and considerably less for a helmet. Good luck!
x2 one of these suited my budget so I bought one after Stan's recommendation & I've done a good few hrs behind it now. I really like it. I had to do a minor bodge on the headgear to get it sitting right but otherwise it's been great. The big window is a real nice thing to have.

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Old 11-20-2013, 04:28 PM   #3744
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I got 25 welders on staff, all on Lincoln equipment - great stuff
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:10 PM   #3745
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I got 25 welders on staff, all on Lincoln equipment - great stuff
Almost all of my welding machines are red. I still look through a Miller helmet. I have a Lincoln Vista as a back up.

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Old 11-21-2013, 11:53 AM   #3746
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Anybody ever used this helmet? 3 sensors, TIG rated down to 5 amps, solar charging AND a backup battery, for $112. The delay is 1/15000, but I think that will work just fine, and I the manual on/off doesn't bother me. It just becomes part of my welder/bottle on/off procedure.

http://store.cyberweld.com/miweheblclse.html

The NI helmet is the other major contender, thanks Stan!
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Old 11-22-2013, 06:50 AM   #3747
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Alright, my turn for a question.

After a few years of lots of MIG work, I'm about a month into teaching myself to TIG. I've noticed the Forney auto darkening helmet that always worked marvelously for my MIG work isn't cutting it with the TIG. I don't know if it's just getting old (internal battery shitting out), isn't sensitive enough, doesn't have enough sensors, or what, but when welding, it only stays dark about 75-80% of the time without flashing. No flash burns yet, but it makes it very hard to lay a good bead.

What do I look for in a decent (read; not overly expensive) helmet for TIG'ing? Any specific models to look for? A new helmet is on my Xmas list, but I need to tell the fiance what make/model to get, less she buy me a non-auto helmet with flames on it
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Anybody ever used this helmet? 3 sensors, TIG rated down to 5 amps, solar charging AND a backup battery, for $112. The delay is 1/15000, but I think that will work just fine, and I the manual on/off doesn't bother me. It just becomes part of my welder/bottle on/off procedure.

http://store.cyberweld.com/miweheblclse.html

The NI helmet is the other major contender, thanks Stan!
if your going to be welding a decent amount for the foreseeable future you might as well pony up the extra 200 or so bucks from the hundred you want to spend now and get a real welding helmet. I have had my Jackson safety 3n1 for a little over 10 years now and it shows no signs of stopping and it has not led the nicest life. best part is you can grind/torch/weld all with one helmet and the push of a button.

the flip up in your second post is ok but its no Jackson or high end miller and it still don't have the torch setting.
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:07 AM   #3748
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Alright, my turn for a question.

After a few years of lots of MIG work, I'm about a month into teaching myself to TIG. I've noticed the Forney auto darkening helmet that always worked marvelously for my MIG work isn't cutting it with the TIG. I don't know if it's just getting old (internal battery shitting out), isn't sensitive enough, doesn't have enough sensors, or what, but when welding, it only stays dark about 75-80% of the time without flashing. No flash burns yet, but it makes it very hard to lay a good bead.

What do I look for in a decent (read; not overly expensive) helmet for TIG'ing? Any specific models to look for? A new helmet is on my Xmas list, but I need to tell the fiance what make/model to get, less she buy me a non-auto helmet with flames on it
For TIG I prefer a huntsman fiber hood with a non auto large lens. I'm possibly the only person on this forum that prefers a non auto hood, but It works for me. I like auto helmets for MIG but as I've aged and progressed to wearing bifocal glasses I have had problems seeing when TIG welding. I've tried the insert readers and they help, but when I dug out my old huntsman it was so much easier to see with that huge 4" x5"" lens. Much easier than trying to juggle a pair of readers and a pair of bifocals in the shop.
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:35 AM   #3749
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For TIG I prefer a huntsman fiber hood with a non auto large lens. I'm possibly the only person on this forum that prefers a non auto hood, but It works for me. I like auto helmets for MIG but as I've aged and progressed to wearing bifocal glasses I have had problems seeing when TIG welding. I've tried the insert readers and they help, but when I dug out my old huntsman it was so much easier to see with that huge 4" x5"" lens. Much easier than trying to juggle a pair of readers and a pair of bifocals in the shop.
Me too. Love the large viewing area and I'm just so used to flipping the hood down with a nod of my head that it feels odd not to do it.
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:50 AM   #3750
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For TIG I prefer a huntsman fiber hood with a non auto large lens. I'm possibly the only person on this forum that prefers a non auto hood, but It works for me. I like auto helmets for MIG but as I've aged and progressed to wearing bifocal glasses I have had problems seeing when TIG welding. I've tried the insert readers and they help, but when I dug out my old huntsman it was so much easier to see with that huge 4" x5"" lens. Much easier than trying to juggle a pair of readers and a pair of bifocals in the shop.
Like most, I started with a non-auto hood, and will NEVER do that again. I gave my last one away.

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if your going to be welding a decent amount for the foreseeable future you might as well pony up the extra 200 or so bucks from the hundred you want to spend now and get a real welding helmet. I have had my Jackson safety 3n1 for a little over 10 years now and it shows no signs of stopping and it has not led the nicest life. best part is you can grind/torch/weld all with one helmet and the push of a button.

the flip up in your second post is ok but its no Jackson or high end miller and it still don't have the torch setting.
I have no need for a torch setting, and HATE grinding with a helmet on, goggles only for that kinda stuff.

I'm thinking about stepping up to around the $200 range, but no more. I weld fairly frequently (a few times a week usually) but don't have the $ for a more expensive helmet.

I have 2 interviews/welding tests coming up next week, one at my current employer, and one at another place. I'll be taking my Forney in as my work helmet, and spending a bit more for my at-home helmet. I suppose if the new position pays well enough, I may drop $300 on a helmet as a congratulations to myself, otherwise, less than $200 is a must.
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