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Old 09-03-2013, 02:01 PM   #1561
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You are correct and right. It is the older model tour X then my other helmet which is a tour X3 with the slidding vents.

But for €200 I couldn't say no to an older model new in the box helmet.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:25 PM   #1562
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You are correct and right. It is the older model tour X then my other helmet which is a tour X3 with the slidding vents.

But for €200 I couldn't say no to an older model new in the box helmet.
Nice buy! That's a steal. I had an XD-1 (Tour XD) for 5 years. Loved it. I just got an XD-4. The differences are minor and both are great lids. Cheers!
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:44 PM   #1563
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The Pumpkin King - KTM 990 windscreen experiments

For those thinking about cutting down their windscreens or buying the Moose Racing "shorty":

I bought the orange one from KTM Twins. I'll be the first to admit that it's ugly on the 990 R. I heard about fitment issues with these, but this one fits ok. Although, it sticks out where the plastic ends near the bottom of the headlight. This makes it look unfinished and it could snag easily. Here's a few photos of the shorty and the original for reference.











It looks more like a Halloween bike than ever and the orange plastic isn't a good match with the orange color on the R. Also looks like I collided with an orange cone and this is the result. I guess I can paint it. .

The differences in wind protection between the short and stock windscreen are interesting. The short screen moves the buffeting lower, somewhere between my chin and chest and virtually eliminated any feeling of buffeting. The stock windscreen buffeting hits me directly above my helmet visor, and in windy conditions is annoying in the extreme.

If your objective is to remove buffeting, the shorty wins. However, it's not a totally clean win. The price to pay for no buffeting is a much heavier wind load on your head and body, which will be more fatiguing over time.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:53 PM   #1564
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i did the translucent orange one and did not like it a first either. now it has grown on me. i like the shorter screen and my nose thanks me for it as well. hopefully wont get broken again on the new shorty...



looks even cooler in the dark. gives a neon affect along the edge.




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Old 10-27-2013, 07:41 PM   #1565
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If your objective is to remove buffeting, the shorty wins. However, it's not a totally clean win. The price to pay for no buffeting is a much heavier wind load on your head and body, which will be more fatiguing over time.
I did the Yellow Pig mod to a stock windscreen, and it ends up being pretty similar to that. With the stock height screen, the frequency of the vibrations was what really got to me. Gave me nasty headaches after a few hours in the saddle. Now, even though there is more wind blast and I'm not as warm as I used to be, I don't get headaches or anything. It is still louder than riding an unfaired bike, but at least the buffeting and vibrations are gone.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:53 AM   #1566
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Unless I missed something in the 105 pages of this post I didn't read, has anyone done a mod to just flare the sides of the stock 990 windscreen? Seems to me the buffeting comes from the sides, not so much the top. If I put my hand up along the left side, that side buffeting seems to go away.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:16 AM   #1567
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That's basically what the touring windshield is, and it seems to make matters worse.
You have a large area of low pressure behind the shield, that makes it very difficult to achieve smooth laminar flow.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:15 AM   #1568
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Vector, is your windscreen



the 5" or 2 1/2" height?
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:36 PM   #1569
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Vector, is your windscreen the 5" or 2 1/2" height?
It must be the 5". There wasn't an option when I ordered it. I measured it, from the top of the instrument cluster to the top of the windscreen is a little over 5".
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:58 PM   #1570
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I bought an Arai TourX (or XD in US speak) a few months ago in the winter sales, and at speeds above 60mph it's bloody awful, noisy and loads of vibration from the peak.
But then I didn't expect any different - it is after all just an MX lid with a visor, and the peak IS going to catch the wind and vibrate - it's simple aerodynamics at the end of the day.
Rather than chopping down the bike's screen, wouldn't it just be a hell of a lot easier just to remove the peak, ie use the helmet the way Arai designed it to be used - with the peak off for fast road riding. Or do some people just prefer the looks and pose value of the 'off-road' style MX lid, over practical considerations like wind noise??

FWIW using my regular Arai Astro R for road riding, I don't have a problem with buffeting at any speed, and find the fairing and screen pretty effective at keeping the worst of the wind/weather at bay on longer trips.
I've got the same helmet and same issue. I just got the tallest screen for my 1190 and that seems to have fixed things. The problem w the helmet is that the peak is too flexible. Hold it very lightly with 2 fingers when you're driving 130 or so and feel the difference. I doesn't take much to cut the vibrations. I'm contemplating to either stick a layer of carbon on top or make a template and make a new carbon visor. Should sort the problem. Don't really want to ride without it since it's a good sunblocker
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:14 PM   #1571
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Same here. I'm 5'-11" and my 950S has the OEM windscreen. I've been riding every other week to a jobsite in another town, its roughly a 200 mile round trip. I was using my BMW Enduro helmet (I know, sacrilege) and was getting terrible vibrations from the peak at anything over 110 kms/h (70 mph). So last week, I dusted off my old Nolan N103 and I couldn't believe it. I was cruising at 140 kms/h (90 mph) with no buffeting! From now on, I'm only using the Nolan for the longer rides at highways speeds.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:46 PM   #1572
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For what its worth, I have the touring, stock, and rally raid. so far I like the rally raid the best, a little more wind pressure but it seems quiter. I am 6'3" for reference.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:57 PM   #1573
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Moose Screen

Hello,

I am 5'10" and I purchased the Moose wind screen. Was the cheapest of all the replacements and has worked great. Moto helmet or Road it has reduced the buffeting to zero and noise level is well within comfort level.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:16 PM   #1574
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Well, I'm surprised this hasn't turned up here yet. THIS is exactly what I've been looking for: (OSO Winter Project)

I'm 6'4", I've been experimenting with shorter, taller, wider and no fairing at all. This looks like a winner: It's got a bit more rake to it to smooth out air flow, the screen is a wider than stock and is adjustable. I will not hesitate to spend the money on this set-up.

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Old 12-04-2013, 01:30 PM   #1575
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Well, I'm surprised this hasn't turned up here yet. THIS is exactly what I've been looking for: (OSO Winter Project)

I'm 6'4", I've been experimenting with shorter, taller, wider and no fairing at all. This looks like a winner: It's got a bit more rake to it to smooth out air flow, the screen is a wider than stock and is adjustable. I will not hesitate to spend the money on this set-up.
Sweet, thanks for the link to Lica's thread- I'm behind on my forum reading and just got an alert for this thread that caught my eye. Agreed on the BC project, looks both extremely functional and aesthetically pleasing- for lighting as well as airflow management!

I'll throw this out there (again) for anyone looking for a quick reduction of buffeting on the 990- take the mirrors off and go for a ride before you spend dollar ONE on anything- don't blame the OEM windscreen/fairing for a problem it is not causing!
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