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Old 11-24-2013, 02:35 PM   #5686
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I want to do pole style construction but the fact that we actually get winter weather here, I am concerned on how to do the slab properly. I don't plan on keeping the space heated, so it is possible that the dirt under the slab could freeze.

When I built my barn I cut some foam insulation board 24" wide and buried it along the grade board. Helps keep the frost from coming up under the slab.


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Old 11-24-2013, 02:37 PM   #5687
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What is your concern?

Most every farm around me has a pole barn of some sort. They're usually not heated and have slab floors. But, they're probably at least ~8" thick, to support their machinery. The best buildings I've seen are Morton. Take a look through their gallery. You'll see plenty that aren't heated.
I guess the frost heave damaging the slab. I guess if it is setup correctly, the slab will just float? I thought most farm buildings had dirt floors. I'll have to do more reading.
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Old 11-24-2013, 02:43 PM   #5688
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Did a little cleaning for the upcoming winter.. now have room to park the car inside before snowfall

Moved a lot of the items out to the barn and keeping that organized so can do some wrenching out there.. for when it's too cold I work inside :)

Before.. quite a few of the items making the pile up were bought to help organize



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Old 11-24-2013, 02:49 PM   #5689
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I guess the frost heave damaging the slab. I guess if it is setup correctly, the slab will just float? I thought most farm buildings had dirt floors. I'll have to do more reading.

I have never seen a barn floor damaged from frost. Not saying it couldn't happen but I do not think it is a concern. Half of my barn is heated so the foam insulation helps keep the heat in more than the frost out.
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Old 11-25-2013, 09:06 AM   #5690
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Wow!

I have been looking for a website like that for a long time...thanks for sharing it.

I have it book marked in my favorites now, because its gonna take a long time to look at soooo many great pics.

I have a contract in on my 30 x 42 x 14 building right now (permit approval stage) so Im just in the hurry up and wait mode....being the middle of winter I have all kinds of time to dream and decide how I want to configure the inside and this website is giving me all kinds of wonderful ideas!

Thanks again.
No problem.

The layout of the site sucks, as it's too hard to get to the individual project pages. But, once there, it's nice to look through the galleries and see what people have done. Also, having the project number listed is cool, because you can ring your local Morton dealer and they'll be able to look up costs and such.

For those considering heating their shop: My GF works for a veterinarian who decided to go with a metal building. I convinced her to go with a heated floor, by taking her into my neighbor's shop on a 5deg day. We opened the doors and cleared out all heat to demonstrate the ~10 minute temp recovery. With his thermostat on 60, his floor was ~84deg. She built a clinic ~3 times what she had and her utilities are ~1/3 of the old building. Plus, the employees and animals are warmer, standing on a heated floor. They use an on-demand water heater.

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I guess the frost heave damaging the slab. I guess if it is setup correctly, the slab will just float? I thought most farm buildings had dirt floors. I'll have to do more reading.
Where problems come in is pouring too thin of slab. People always skimp, trying to save money. But, you have to consider the expanse. The larger the pad, the thicker it needs to be. Think of it like a piece of plywood. The larger the piece, the thicker it needs to be to not sag or break. Yes, there are cut lines and expansion joints. But, those just allow a defined place to crack. You still need thickness for overall support of the slab. Poured thick, you should never have a problem with slab breaking or cracking because of frost.

My 24'X36' is 7"-8" thick and no cracks, yet, in 6yrs. I didn't perfectly grade the gravel. I ordered extra concrete and filled the forms. Extra thickness is never a bad thing. There are places in my driveway that are 11" thick. Out at the ditch, it's 30" around the culvert. I've had a semi-tractor on the drive. There isn't a single crack in any of it, in ~10yrs. I feel like a couple hundred extra bucks in concrete is cheap insurance for the future.
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Old 11-25-2013, 02:58 PM   #5691
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I bought my house in 2012, after a tour in Afghanistan and when I was looking I had to have a pole barn.





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Old 11-25-2013, 03:01 PM   #5692
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Wow. Nice.


Oh and thanks for your service!

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Old 11-25-2013, 10:02 PM   #5693
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Wow. Nice.


Oh and thanks for your service!

+1 .Took the words right out of my mouth .
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:41 PM   #5694
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I bought my house in 2012, after a tour in Afghanistan and when I was looking I had to have a pole barn.


Wow! I could sit out there all day and just take in the view.

And from an Aussie, thank you ally.
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:42 AM   #5695
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Bought a pre fab 14x30 and had it delivered










Electrical and insulation







Drywall









Got it sealed, heated and painted before winter kicked in







Not much by the standards of some of the shops in this thread but for me its paradise





















Winters will be much more manageable now. Its been -20 the last few nights and it holds it heat. 2 electrical baseboards. Side doors and floor are insulated. Floor was sealed with concrete floor paint. Garage door isn't insulated...still working on that and unpacking boxes of parts. Workbench is still waiting to be assembled....almost finished
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:08 AM   #5696
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Sign should say SNOW CAVE in the winter! Brr.... looks mighty comfy for that kind of weather. Insulated garage door will make a huge difference.
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:16 AM   #5697
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Sign should say SNOW CAVE in the winter! Brr.... looks mighty comfy for that kind of weather. Insulated garage door will make a huge difference.

Figure I'll just pack snow in front of the door...should make for decent insulation
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Old 11-29-2013, 12:23 PM   #5698
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DualDog Dave's Dog House Remodel Installment #2

In our first installment we prepped and poured the radiant floor overlay.






In installment #2 we removed all of the old uninsulated creased and dented metal overhead doors.









The office walls were re-insulated with High-R craft batted fiberglass insulation.







Custom Marvin aluminum clad casement windows with double glazed Low E tint were installed.




With the electrical additions and upgraded prewiring complete.

Time to call in the drywall crew.





What a difference a day and a good drywall crew can make......






In the past years I never really had that good of lighting.

Now there will be plenty recessed florescent lighting.







With a float and a smooth sanding of the walls and ceiling we were ready for the painter.






All surfaces received a good sealing with Kilz and Kelly Moore Durapoxy.





After painting the new insulated doubled glazed overhead doors were installed.





Lighting and door lifts were next.






I decided on the new Lift Master jack bar style lifts.



Lift Masters are very quiet in there operation eliminating the need for drive chains.




Now that the building is tight and right we will now focus on the interior details of outfitting the shop.


STAY TUNED.................................




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Old 11-29-2013, 12:27 PM   #5699
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Bought a pre fab 14x30 and had it delivered




Not much by the standards of some of the shops in this thread but for me its paradise


......as long as you have a place to get away from them/her , you are golden.
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......as long as you have a place to get away from them/her , you are golden.
Exactly. A second living room with a motorcycle in it is happiness - even if it's not in your actual house.
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