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Old 07-25-2003, 11:08 AM   #1
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this thing is awesome. built in saskatchewan, canada for bush touring! more info is on the way from the owner.
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Old 07-25-2003, 11:11 AM   #2
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Old 07-25-2003, 11:16 AM   #3
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That thing is nuts, a sidecar with the already prone to failure front wheel.. I can't imagine how to turn at high speed on that thing..
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Old 07-25-2003, 11:18 AM   #4
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Old 07-25-2003, 11:28 AM   #5
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That thing is nuts, a sidecar with the already prone to failure front wheel.. I can't imagine how to turn at high speed on that thing..
yabbut.... it's so cool!

btw cat. have you got any images of the seat on your rally? I would love to see some. Havin mine recovered coz i ripped it.

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Old 07-25-2003, 01:51 PM   #6
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Hmm, an Odyssey battery, with a laptop on top of it?

And a big ol' electric-powered pump? Are those hydraulic lines headed for the wheel of the chair?

Now this is getting verrrry interesting.

Not to mention the fuel filler at the back. Being Canadian, it's no surprise that it's tastefully done, and of course, dressed appropriately.
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Old 07-25-2003, 02:13 PM   #7
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do I see an anti sway bar at the back of that thing? I NEED the details! This looks like Nathan's work?
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Old 07-25-2003, 02:31 PM   #8
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do I see an anti sway bar at the back of that thing? I NEED the details! This looks like Nathan's work?
I've bugged the builder for details. he's gonna get them to me soon i hope. his name is Norm btw. the quality looks to be very nice from the photos. As said i thought that was an electric motor too, but why? Guess we'll have to wait until we get more details.

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Old 07-25-2003, 06:16 PM   #9
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here's the scoop -

Winston lives in Regina, Saskatchewan and like some of us he has
discovered that there is a lot of scenery and great riding to be found that
msot people never see if you forsake the pavement and take to the gravel and
dirt roads to explore the badlands, valleys and forests. He also has a
vacation chalet at Kimberly, B.C which is ar area honeycombed with mining
and logging roads that beckoned so he bought a 2001 KTM 640 Adventurer and
brought it to me with instructions to build a backroad sidecar rig on it for
him. I machined up a 15 inch rear wheel and installed a 155R15 Vrederstein
mud and snow tire. Then I took apart his forks and rear monoshock to modify
them for greater stiffness and reduced travel. An offroad sidecar rig
requires less travel than a solo bike but at the same time it has to able to
carry more weight. I sent the triple clamps to Peter Smith at Side Effects
in Kamloops B.C. so he could modify them for reduced trail. We're down to
about 1.5 inches now for very light steering. I installed a Daytona
adjustable damper on the front end as well. I constructed subframes and
cross bracing to augment the original KTM frame so it could take the extra
load and forces imparted by a sidecar. Next came a Dnepr sidecar selected
because they are strong and have lots of ground clearance. We put a Nascar
style explosion proof, roll over proof 10 u.s. gallon fuel cell in the trunk
of the sidecar which integrated with the 28 litre bike gas tank gives
Winston incredible range. A car battery was mounted between the bike and
sidecar to replace the original motorcycle battery and a 12 volt ATV self
recovery winch was mounted beside it. The Dnepr sidecar shock was replaced
with a monoshock from a BMW K75. Then it went to the painters to match the
sidecar to the KTM colours and finally I had some KTM decals made up out of
that reflective material they use on ambulances. It turns out it is very
close to the KTM orange and it shows up phenomenally whenever a light hits
it. A padded roll bar and a few other details were added and then the day
came when I had to reluctantly stop test driving it and turn it over to
Winston. It is stable and smooth on all kinds of terrain and capable of
cruising at highway speeds effortlessly even heavily loaded. The KTM has
power and torque characteristics that work extremely well for an application
like this and the bike is just a strong quality product throughout. Winston
is happy.
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Old 07-26-2003, 06:16 PM   #10
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:56 PM   #11
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Why! WHY! By a car!
My thoughts too...............

But I am well impressed by the engineering side of things

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Old 07-27-2003, 02:06 PM   #12
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My thoughts too...............

But I am well impressed by the engineering side of things

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I have heard you don't have the opportunities to ride back roads and fireroads in Europe that we have in the western margins of the North American continent? Think of crossing a rallycar with a large dualsport moto and having hundreds and thousands of single lane dirt and gravel roads to play on, much of which you will have entirely to yourself for hours or days at a time. Big dirt sidecars are loads of fun!
I think what you guys are calling a big electric motor is a winch. What I was wondering about what looks like a torsion bar or anti swaybar which reaches across the back of the sidecar, under the winch and the sidecar chassis. If that is what it is I would like to know the particulars. I could use one on my Tiger.
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Old 07-27-2003, 02:15 PM   #13
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If you mean the bit I've highlighted, it certainly looks like an anti-roll or sway bar
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Old 07-27-2003, 02:31 PM   #14
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If you mean the bit I've highlighted, it certainly looks like an anti-roll or sway bar
YEP! That is what I am talking about.
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Old 07-29-2003, 09:46 AM   #15
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