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Old 04-28-2007, 06:42 PM   #1
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Do you flash your headlights to get a slow cage to move over?

So my bike has a 'flash-to-pass' switch. Hmm. . . .never had a bike with that before, cool!


I figured that I'd probably hardy ever use it, but actually I've found that I use it a good bit.


When I'm riding in the left lane, and I see a car ahead poking along in the same lane (clueless. . . .) often I find myself flash the lights a couple times to wake them up so that they move over. Or at the least, it will make them aware that I'm on a bike and behind them.


Usually, the cars comply and move to the right lane. Sometimes they speed up or something, and after it is apparent that they're not gonna move over, I'll go around them on the right. But at least they know I'm there.

Now on my other bikes without the switch, I'd just signal and pass on the right, but who knows if the cage is aware that I'm even there passing them? I'd rather flash the high beam and wake them up, so that I know that I'm seen.

Occasionally, this pissed some cages off, too. I try not to do that, I don't keep the high beam on or anything, just a quick flash or two.


So, do you use it? Do you think it's appropriate in this circumstance? Do you think it's an agressive move? Or just plain rude?




I ask because out riding with some friends today, one of them was appalled by this behavior. He says it's best to just go around, since the other lane is most likely clear anyway. (I'm not talking about flashing when in traffic or anything, but on the open road.) That's what I used to do most of the time, but I think it surprises some people when you suddenly appear next to them on a motorcycle. Better to make them aware of my presence, I think.


So whaddya think?
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Old 04-28-2007, 06:57 PM   #2
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I run the high beam all the time & use the throttle for the flash & pass
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:18 PM   #3
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So, do you use it? Do you think it's appropriate in this circumstance? Do you think it's an agressive move? Or just plain rude?
I do it if I'm in the fast lane, and they can move over, but aren't for some reason - but I don't do it right on their tail - usually about 4 seconds back, otherwise its just too pushy and likely to piss folks off. Always give them a nod and wave if they do move over for me. Get a lot of friendly waves back.
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:32 PM   #4
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i usually hang back. if they move over. i give a wave after i've passed.
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:33 PM   #5
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A handy feature, I agree. But I use it more frequently as I approach an intersection.

For drivers moving in the opposite direction that wish to turn left across my lane or any driver wishing to turn right into my lane, I find the flashing does a good job of alerting them to my presence. Many a time I've seen cars move towards crossing my path only to stop after I flash my brights. I typically flash well in advance of the intersection. It clearly increases conspicuity and, I'm convinced, has prevented many dangerous situations.
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:58 PM   #6
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No flash, just gas and pass. On the other hand, if I had a headlight modulator...
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Old 04-28-2007, 09:03 PM   #7
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In my experience, I've found that flashing to pass equates to "slow down and block" in cager speak. I have no qualms with passing on the right if they are playing the "you vill do zee speedlimit" routine. I typically wait until they are looking away and BAM there I go.
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Old 04-28-2007, 09:21 PM   #8
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I don't. I pretty much just run away if people are being that oblivious. Then again I generally don't ride around large highways where it would be acceptable. Screw superslab!
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:31 PM   #9
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So my bike has a 'flash-to-pass' switch.
I *** LOVE*** the one on the wee.
Hmm. . . .never had a bike with that before, cool!
So, do you use it? Do you think it's appropriate in this circumstance? Do you think it's an agressive move? Or just plain rude?[/quote]

I've never used it in that fashion. What I have and continue to use it for is when I'm approaching a cage going the other way and attempting to turn left, or a cage at a right-side intersection trying to turn right to join my lane. I've often flashed my highs previously, in such situations, and the wee's flash-to-pass button serves nicely as a "yo, butthead, I'm here" button.
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:10 AM   #10
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In my experience, I've found that flashing to pass equates to "slow down and block" in cager speak. I have no qualms with passing on the right if they are playing the "you vill do zee speedlimit" routine. I typically wait until they are looking away and BAM there I go.
Yeah, it really seems to piss off people. I'll flutter the lights when I'm not sure if I've been seen at an intersection.
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:15 AM   #11
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I find that people generally react appropriately when I flash them from the cage, but it never really dawned on me to do so on the bike. Flicking a thumbswitch does seem easier than my 'move over' swatting gesture, which is totally ineffective.

Anyway, people really hate getting honked at, and stock bike horns are a joke anyway, so beam away.
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Old 04-29-2007, 02:21 AM   #12
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I've never used it in that fashion. What I have and continue to use it for is when I'm approaching a cage going the other way and attempting to turn left, or a cage at a right-side intersection trying to turn right to join my lane. I've often flashed my highs previously, in such situations, and the wee's flash-to-pass button serves nicely as a "yo, butthead, I'm here" button.
Until the day that someone in that situation takes your flashing as permission to make their move - at least over here in that sort of situation it means "I've seen you wanting to turn, I'm going to let you turn in front of me".
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Old 04-29-2007, 03:35 AM   #13
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. . in such situations..the wee's flash-to-pass button serves nicely as a "yo, butthead, I'm here" button.
+1 . . Woah, careful dude. That flash can be interpreted as "yo, I'm a butthead, turn in front of me."

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Old 04-29-2007, 06:27 AM   #14
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+1 . . Woah, careful dude. That flash can be interpreted as "yo, I'm a butthead, turn in front of me."

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It's funny, I always thought it meant "you go first" until my old boss and I were zipping through an intersection (he was driving) in his Ford Ranchero & the light was turning yellow and a car was waiting to turn left in front of us. He flashed his lights repeatedly and said "coming through!" (to me, of course…so that didn't really help)…and she turned and we nailed her, totalling both cars. They then had a really interesting discussion on the meaning of flashing your headlights. The moral being it means the opposite thing to some people, kind of like your turn signals in Mexico.

I'd say it definitely means "move over" when you're behind someone on the slab, but people also seem to take that as some act of hostility…because people are stupid.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:38 AM   #15
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I have tried my flash to pass switch on the ktm but it never seems to get anyones attention. During the day I have the high beam on anyways so if i want to use the flash to pass I have to go back the low beam and hit the button. My experiences with trying it on the interstate is that people are oblivious to who is behind them. So it rarely works. Mabey if you hade some 500W driving lights where they could feel the back of their necks singing.
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