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Old 09-02-2014, 09:41 AM   #1
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Anyone in Orlando?

Hello,

Im sort of a newbie here and I am wondering if there is anybody in Orlando/Winter Park that would be willing to come give me a hand with my DR350. After getting water logged, it wont start. If anyone is around that is willing to assist, PM me. Im willing to compensate any way ya want (Beer, food, $).

Thanks in advance
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Old 09-02-2014, 01:30 PM   #2
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what kind of food we talkin?

I'm not tooo bad at fixin broke stuff, but I am a picky eater.
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Old 09-02-2014, 02:01 PM   #3
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ex250 mike. Anything ya want honestly. It might be something simple that I am just overlooking.
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Old 09-02-2014, 02:14 PM   #4
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1) Take out air filter/dry out airbox.
2) Pull spark plug, throw a new one in. Also check spark cap as they don't like water.
3) Find drain bolt on carb float bowl. Turn gas on (do the 350s have vacuum like the 650s did?) and let it run out as much as possible. If it looks clear, means you get some water in the gas.
4) Check battery connections. Electricity and water generally don't do well.
5) Check fuses. See above.
6) Start carefully checking wire loom and connections.
7) Drink a lot. Repeat.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:09 PM   #5
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Ive done all of the above and double-checked. I just found my feeler gauges so Ill be checking the valves next.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:21 PM   #6
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Ive done all of the above and double-checked. I just found my feeler gauges so Ill be checking the valves next.
If'n you have spark, air, & fuel... it'll start.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:24 PM   #7
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Ive done all of the above and double-checked. I just found my feeler gauges so Ill be checking the valves next.
Ok if you would like internet help, we need details. I am not an expert mechanic by any means, however there are some gurus around here.

1)How confident would you rate your performance of Mikes suggested activities?
2)How long was the bike under water?
3)Did you shut the bike off or did it shut down from being submerged?
4)Once you got it out of the water did you try to start it?
5) What is currently wrong in the process, and by that I mean can you attempt to start it, or is it dead(electrically)?
6) If it is not electrically, then we can assume it is just not turning over?
7) Have you checked the oil? If you sucked water it is going to look like a milkshake.
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8) It is this DR a kick start? If so I really feel your pain. If you are confident that you have checked everything, have you checked that you have a spark? Plenty of Youtube videos on how to do this, more of a PITA if KSO.
Sorry about the bike, I think everyone has to deal with this at some point and it is not fun.

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If'n you have spark, air, & fuel... it'll start.
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Old 09-02-2014, 04:01 PM   #8
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Fixed many a drown bike.

Assuming you checked everything else try and pull start it with another bike or even car.

The idea is to clear trash out from valves. Trash can get stuck in va,lve and not allow compression. One bike had a stuck compression ring. I feel for you.
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Old 09-03-2014, 08:05 PM   #9
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@bobby ginger... thanks for those questions as I have an answer for every one of them.

1) I would rate my confidence very high on those activities.
2) The bike was under for around 5 minutes.
3) The bike was shut down from being submerged
4) Once I got it out of the water, like a retard, I did try and start it.
5) The current problem is that it turns over with the electric start but won't fire. The electrical system seems to be fine.
6) ^^^
7) I drained the oil and it was a milkshake... on both sides.
8) Fortunately, it is electric start and I have spark.

In that case, it is looking like I have a valve problem. Ill be checking those in the next few days.

Thanks everyone for the input. I feel like a retard for sinking it but such is life...
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Old 09-04-2014, 04:19 AM   #10
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Checking valves wont really tell you anything.

If you have dried out everything and have spark, Im assuming you have no compression. The local auto store may loan you a compression tester that will give the answer quickly. Remove plug. insert gage and turn over engine. should get about 100+ psi - if not you have a stuck ring or trash in valve...

did you try and estart along with a vigorous kick

Again good luck
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Old 09-04-2014, 01:22 PM   #11
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Hmmm, Have you taken the carb apart? Tried changing the pilot jet?
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Old 09-04-2014, 03:23 PM   #12
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If'n you have spark, air, & fuel and compression ... it'll start.
fixed it for you...
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Old 09-04-2014, 03:36 PM   #13
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fixed it for you...
Yep, I didn't think about the possibility of it sticking a ring or getting crap stuck in the valves. Most of the ones that I've seen submerged aren't that f'd up.
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Old 09-04-2014, 07:41 PM   #14
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Nelly17 - Be sure and let us all know the final fix/cause. Part of ADV is sharing our experience--- good and bad.
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:19 PM   #15
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@bobby ginger... thanks for those questions as I have an answer for every one of them.

1) I would rate my confidence very high on those activities.
2) The bike was under for around 5 minutes.
3) The bike was shut down from being submerged
4) Once I got it out of the water, like a retard, I did try and start it.
5) The current problem is that it turns over with the electric start but won't fire. The electrical system seems to be fine.
6) ^^^
7) I drained the oil and it was a milkshake... on both sides.
8) Fortunately, it is electric start and I have spark.

In that case, it is looking like I have a valve problem. Ill be checking those in the next few days.

Thanks everyone for the input. I feel like a retard for sinking it but such is life...
Shit happens to ALL OF US, even the well seasoned. Vic's got you on the right path.
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