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Old 07-14-2007, 01:22 PM   #136
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The Kenda K270 tires I am running are a little larger, but they're more like 50/50 on-off road tires. I don't know what to suggest for tires biased more for off-road.
Pierelli MT21's are good offroad tire for the dr200. They have em to fit it also.
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Old 07-14-2007, 05:37 PM   #137
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i had ridden my 200 to work on thursday. beautiful morning, but a bit of a head wind.

on the way home though, i said to myself "self, there's a tail wind! hit the highway!"

55 mph for 30 miles.

you know yer a bit underpowered though when a tail wind helps you decide yer route.

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Old 07-14-2007, 05:46 PM   #138
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Another issue is the change in diameter and the final ratio. My old worn out TW 18 and 19 gave great performance with the 15:42 (2.8) but now with the new TW's the overall effect is a taller ratio........Wish I would have taken a circumference measurement of the old tires before removing. But, using before (5%) and after (~0%)...
I suspect you're deluding yourself here. Ballpark: The tire has a diameter in the 24" range; 18" rim and about 3" of tire on each side.

5% of 24" is 1.2" How deep is the tread on a new TW? Okay I'll grant you it may indeed be 0.6". But did you REALLY run it all the way down to bald? Okay, so I gues it is theoretically possible, but sheesh, change 'em before the cord is showing or sumthin'. It would be rare to actually reach that amount of differtence on that tire.

(Yes, we did have one of those bikes for a few years. Though we ran an MT-21 on it in bakc; don't remember the front.
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:17 PM   #139
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I suspect you're deluding yourself here. Ballpark: The tire has a diameter in the 24" range; 18" rim and about 3" of tire on each side.

5% of 24" is 1.2" How deep is the tread on a new TW? Okay I'll grant you it may indeed be 0.6". But did you REALLY run it all the way down to bald? Okay, so I gues it is theoretically possible, but sheesh, change 'em before the cord is showing or sumthin'. It would be rare to actually reach that amount of differtence on that tire.

(Yes, we did have one of those bikes for a few years. Though we ran an MT-21 on it in bakc; don't remember the front.


No delusion at all, pure math.


The GPS indicated about a 2mph actual deficit at 40mph indicated with the Tw 18 and 19. Now, I am spot on at 40 with TW301 and 302.

The diameter change is not 100% tread wear (and never said it was) but also change in tire cross section. Even examining circumference change with .375" tread wear will give a 3% error assuming a starting 24" diameter (75.36" circumference) as per your example.

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Old 07-14-2007, 09:12 PM   #140
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i had ridden my 200 to work on thursday. beautiful morning, but a bit of a head wind.

on the way home though, i said to myself "self, there's a tail wind! hit the highway!"

55 mph for 30 miles.

you know yer a bit underpowered though when a tail wind helps you decide yer route.


Wheee! Ride like the wind!
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:47 PM   #141
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:17 AM   #142
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I buried the needle once going downhill with a tailwind. That seemed faster than the speeds I achieved on superbikes I've ridden in the past. Wheee! Ride with the wind!
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:35 AM   #143
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RIDE REPORT: BAJA CALIFORNIA DAY TRIP



Some items to take along



This is where the ride starts -Tecate, CA



From Tecate, B.C., we take this road east towards La Rumorosa

This road stretches as far as the eye can see without so much as a turn or a bend. It turns out it's a PEMEX pipeline road.
I'm leading to start the ride, and I ride at a pace that seems comfortable to me. Every now and then I look at my speedometer and it says 30 MPH most of the time. When I stop to take a picture, the other riders get ahead of me and now I'm last. It feels like we're still moving along at the same pace and when I look down at my speedometer; that confirms it. We're still going 30 MPH or so most of the time. I'm happy to find out that we all like to ride at about the same pace.


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USA-Mexico Border in background

That's husky4me on the PEMEX pipeline road. That road you see in the background is the Border Road. You can see two steel power line towers just above the road on the ridgeline. That's just west of where the railroad tracks cross into Mexico from the United States.


Gates on the PEMEX pipeline road

That sign says "ZONA GANADERA - FAVOR CIERRE LA PUERTA AL PASAR - GRACIAS." Translation: "CATTLE AREA - PLEASE CLOSE THE GATE UPON PASSING - THANKS."


husky4me descending a hill

A road that's as straight as an arrow doesn't go around hills. It goes up and over. Some of the hills are pretty steep.


Going uphill

Somewhere around this hill, we start to see thunderstorm clouds to the southeast. They're around where we think our route to Laguna Hanson will take us. That could be good because the rain will cool us down or it could be bad because we might get drenched. We can't decide whether it's a good or a bad thing and keep going.


Getting gas in La Rumorosa

Right next to this gas station is a restaurant called La Cabana del Abuelo where we have lunch. That translates into something like "Grandpa's Cabin." I recommend it to anyone going through La Rumorosa.


Turnoff for the road to Laguna Hanson

After lunch, we continue on. The turnoff is four tenths of a mile west of La Cabana del Abuelo.


Three-way fork in the road. Which way to go?

Which way to go? We take the fork on the right and wind up in a sand excavation pit a mile or two down the road. The guys working there are nice enough and tell us we have to go back to the fork and take the middle road to get to Laguna Hanson.


Back on the road to Laguna Hanson

There is some traffic on the road. We pass trucks and SUVs here and there and we follow behind this truck with horses in the back for about a mile until we can get around it.


Parque Nacional Constitucion - 31 Kilometers

Do you see the clouds in the photo? They're thunderstorm clouds. I can feel the moisture in the air and smell the wet vegetation. It smells like the compost you use to cover up the soil in your garden. It's nice and cool up here and I'm only getting a few drops of water on my goggles. So far, the thunderstorms are a good thing.


Backbone of Baja California

That mountain that looks like the Matterhorn in Disneyland is part of the same range that runs the length of the Baja California Peninsula. We're looking east in this picture and there are no clouds off to the east. The only clouds are above us and to the south. It must be scorching hot down in the desert below.


Rancho Rodeo del Rey

My odometer tells me we're getting pretty close to Laguna Hanson when we come across this. A restaurant and hotel in the middle of nowhere. We decide to check it out on the way back.


Three riders on the south side of Laguna Hanson

From left to right husky4me, Jack, and 2Wheels. That bike is Jack's. That little tail sticking out of the bag is from a coyote. I tell Jack that when he signs up for SDAR, he should choose "Rabo" for a screen name. Rabo is Spanish for short tail or stubby tail. He isn't so sure he likes that screen name, but says he'll think about it.

The sky in the background - to the north - is pretty dark with clouds and we can hear thunder coming from the area we just rode through. Still only a few drops of water here by the lake. Getting wet wouldn't be so bad as long as it isn't cold.
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Rancho Rodeo del Rey

On the way back we stop at Rancho Rodeo del Rey. They have a restaurant, a hotel, cabins, gasoline, horse rentals, and mountain bike rentals. But best of all for us right now, they have cold beer.
Before leaving, we take a look at the hotel rooms. They look pretty good. This wouldn't be a bad place to stop for the night on a trip further south into Baja California. The only drawback is that it's still close to San Diego. You could make it further south to spend your first night on a longer trip.
The way back to La Rumorosa is uneventful. It rained while we were at the Rancho Rodeo del Rey and the ground is wet in places with puddles here and there.


We don't encounter any traffic and we make pretty good time getting back to La Rumorosa, but it's about 5:00 in the afternoon by the time we get there. We decide that taking pavement back to Tecate is the best option considering how late in the day it is. It's only about 30 miles from La Rumorosa to Tecate, but it seems like the longest part of the trip.

A short wait at the Tecate Port of Entry and we're back in the States.

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Im planning on making some longer trips into Baja California with the 200. Ive seen some pics here of DR200s with saddlebags. Where do you get bags for a DR200?
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That's an interesting ride, and good pictures. Good to hear there are more to come.

I'm running Ortlieb Dry Bags on my 200, with a Happy Trails S/U rack to hold them away from the bike.


ps. got pictures of the DR200?
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That's an interesting ride, and good pictures. Good to hear there are more to come.

I'm running Ortlieb Dry Bags on my 200, with a Happy Trails S/U rack to hold them away from the bike.


ps. got pictures of the DR200?
I'll post some pics. It'll have to be later this evening though.

Meanwhile, I'll google Ortileb Dry Bags and Happy trails S/U rack. Thanks for the info.
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My bike is almost stock. The only thing about it that isn't stock is the rear turn signals (Baja Designs don't break as easily), and the fender bag. What makes it special to me is that it takes me to out-of-the-way places. So here's a few pics of the DR200 in some out-of-the-way places.

Overlooking the Viejas Indian Reservation and Casino in San Diego County


Overlooking a Canyon around San Diego


This picture was taken about a half mile north of the USA-Mexico border overlooking the Mexican town of Tecate. That hill with the antennas on top is in Tecate, Baja California, Mexico.


That barbed wire fence just below the bikes is the USA-Mexico Border


One of the back roads in San Diego County. That mountain in the background is Cuyamaca Peak, the second-highest mountain in San Diego County at 6,512 feet elevation.


And there's the DR200 at Laguna Hanson in Baja California, Mexico.

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Old 07-23-2007, 05:59 PM   #148
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Im planning on making some longer trips into Baja California with the 200. Ive seen some pics here of DR200s with saddlebags. Where do you get bags for a DR200?
the other place to look for luggage is wolfman luggage.

i have a set of tank panniers, and i'm thinking about something for the arse end of the bike as well.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:26 PM   #149
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My bike is almost stock. The only thing about it that isn't stock is the rear turn signals (Baja Designs don't break as easily), and the fender bag. What makes it special to me is that it takes me to out-of-the-way places. So here's a few pics of the DR200 in some out-of-the-way places.


Excellent! You mentioned that you were traveling around at about 30 mph. That's about my speed, too, on those kinds of roads. I ride the 200 around for the thrill of exploring, just puttering along, not for the thrill of speed.
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Excellent! You mentioned that you were traveling around at about 30 mph. That's about my speed, too, on those kinds of roads. I ride the 200 around for the thrill of exploring, just puttering along, not for the thrill of speed.
It's not so much that I'm shooting for any particular speed. I just try to strike a balance between covering ground and still being able to look at everything around me. Any faster, and all I'm concentrating on is the road. Any slower, and I feel like I'm not going anywhere. It seems that when I'm more focused on the trip than the destination, I find myself puttering along at about 30.

I asked my riding partners about it too, and they said the same thing. A nice easy pace where you can take in the scenery was about right.

I'd been planning on getting a bigger bike to take down to the tip of Baja. But on the ride to Laguna Hanson, it really hit me that I just don't need anything bigger. As remote as some of that country down there is, I just wouldn't dare ride around crazy fast. How fast is crazy fast? I think some of the slower motorcycles in the Baja races average around 60 MPH. That's crazy fast to me.

So now that the little 200 is going to the tip of Baja, I'm looking to get some luggage carrying gear. Thanks, tweeker43, for the link.
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