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Old 07-17-2013, 09:35 PM   #16741
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this is one thing i wouldn't leave off. There's a chance, maybe slight, but a chance that the cable would go in instead of out upon fork compression and then catch on the knobbies. It might only cause the cable to be ripped out, but it could cause a front tire lock up which wouldn't be pretty.

Just my $.02
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:48 PM   #16742
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Yes the DR is a different beast with a totally different nature than pumpkin pie but when the going gets nasty and steep she will still be climbing when the pumpkins have stalled and over heated , they are torque monsters with amazing low rev power to climb.Learn to really enjoy the torque rather than searching for too much more power.
I'm going to do suspension soon. It'd be nice to have enough grunt to throttle the front tire up in second. For that I'm thinking more weight reduction, intake, exhaust, and jetting. Maybe carb?

Everyone says the drz doesn't weigh that much more but my 350 feels noticeably lighter than my drz did.

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Old 07-18-2013, 03:38 AM   #16743
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I recently purchased a 91 dirt model as a non runner. Previous owner assured me that it had been running well before the spark died. Interesting thing was a vinyl tank cover printed with DR441.

After a bit of head scratching and poking round with a multi meter I replaced the source coil which turned out to a different size and resistance. With the correct coil fitted she sparked right up. I also had a look down the spark plug hole and noticed a spotlessly clean piston and valves. The parts were either new or just been stripped and cleaned . From comparing pics of pistons it does appear to be an overbore.

This week I took it for its first proper shakedown run and all was going well until I heard a clatter from the kick start. I'm not sure whether the engine lost power at this point as I immediately released the throttle and pulled the clutch. The engine stopped.

Getting off the bike I found the kick start lever was jammed but freed off after rocking the bike back and forth in gear. Since I had to get home I tried to start the bike but it wouldn't go. The bike would fire when bumped down a hill but not run.

I now have the bike home and the cover off. Observations:

Draining the oil - no oil in the frame. Engine oil looked pretty clear but had traces of metal particles in the oil round the filter.

The kick start spring guide has a couple of chunks out of it. No sign of them yet.

Bottom of the timing chain seems a bit slack. Not hanging loose but I am able to move it. I'm used to these being fairly tight.

Thoughts:

The engine has recently been rebuilt but they installed the wrong pulse coil and couldn't get it running. What else have they bodged? Was the spring guide already buggered?

No oil in the tank - has the scavenger pump ingested some debris and seized?

Timing chain - has the timing jumped a tooth? bent valves?

I have the ability to tear the motor apart if I have to, and the time since I recently lost a job but this also means very limited cash. Obviously I don't want to pull anything apart if I don't need to.

Any advice gratefully received.

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Old 07-18-2013, 09:38 AM   #16744
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Trick to installing kickstart/clutch cover

An oil leak required the removal of the clutch cover and kickstart on my '91 DR350S. Does anyone have a trick or two for making the installation of these parts easier? I pulled it all off as one piece, leaving the kickstart attached to the cover. Would it be better to separate the two elements for installation?
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:50 AM   #16745
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OK , so I'm thinking about a 94 SE ,
I know a guy with 2 dirt , parts bikes , 90 + 92
I figure to use the rear shock from the 92 on the 94 SE
Are the dirt forks (92) any better than the 94 SE forks ?
Or are all the forks the same untill 97 dirt + 98-99 SE + dirt
To be more precise , which forks would be best if I was going to revalve anyhow ? Or at that point does it even matter ?

ALSO
Can I use the kick start parts from the 90 + 92 in the 94SE + my 99SE
if I buy the 94 up idler gear ?

Plus I would have 2 pumper conversions , heh heh
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:59 AM   #16746
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An oil leak required the removal of the clutch cover and kickstart on my '91 DR350S. Does anyone have a trick or two for making the installation of these parts easier? I pulled it all off as one piece, leaving the kickstart attached to the cover. Would it be better to separate the two elements for installation?
You need to install the kick start first. There is a locating hole in the crankcase to insert the end of the kick start spring. Once that is all in place you can offer up the cover.
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:28 PM   #16747
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An oil leak required the removal of the clutch cover and kickstart on my '91 DR350S. Does anyone have a trick or two for making the installation of these parts easier? I pulled it all off as one piece, leaving the kickstart attached to the cover. Would it be better to separate the two elements for installation?
You will need to separate the cover and kickstarter. Once you do, install the kickstarter gear first and then feed the shaft through the cover. It's pretty simple. Make sure you haven't lost any of the washers on the kickstarter gear as well.

The toughest part when I did mine was getting the kicker lever off the shaft. It's a splined fit but if it hasn't been removed for a while, it can be tough. I ended up using a gear puller.

Double check your shift drum bolt.

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Old 07-18-2013, 02:27 PM   #16748
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OK , so I'm thinking about a 94 SE ,
I know a guy with 2 dirt , parts bikes , 90 + 92
I figure to use the rear shock from the 92 on the 94 SE
Are the dirt forks (92) any better than the 94 SE forks ?
Or are all the forks the same untill 97 dirt + 98-99 SE + dirt
To be more precise , which forks would be best if I was going to revalve anyhow ? Or at that point does it even matter ?

ALSO
Can I use the kick start parts from the 90 + 92 in the 94SE + my 99SE
if I buy the 94 up idler gear ?

Plus I would have 2 pumper conversions , heh heh

Also curious about this. Primarily the differences in rear shocks from dirt to street and year to year.
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:47 PM   #16749
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Street shock: Dampening adjustment, shorter spring.

Dirt shock: Dampening and rebound adjustment, longer spring.

I'm not sure if due to the spring length differences if there is a difference in body length or collar length. Dirt shock is stiffer then street shock.

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Also curious about this. Primarily the differences in rear shocks from dirt to street and year to year.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:16 PM   #16750
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Also curious about this. Primarily the differences in rear shocks from dirt to street and year to year.
I have a write up on max zuk

http://www.maximum-suzuki.com/forums...ic=85682.0;all

the S shock is valved softer. SE's are also shorter resulting in only 10 inches of travel vs 11 of the dirt and early S shocks.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:24 PM   #16751
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You need to install the kick start first.
I had a feelling this was going to be the case.

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The toughest part when I did mine was getting the kicker lever off the shaft. It's a splined fit but if it hasn't been removed for a while, it can be tough. I ended up using a gear puller.
Couldn't get my kicker off the shaft to save my soul. Working with limited tools... my garage and most of my house is in storage right now. Might have to go pick up a gear puller on way home from work tonight.

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Double check your shift drum bolt.
Did my best on this one already. I might pull the clutch basket to get a better angle for checking this out.


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Make sure you haven't lost any of the washers on the kickstarter gear as well.
I have the washer that goes on the engine side of the shaft. That bugger wouldn't stay on in my attempt at a combined shaft/cover installation.

Thanks for all of you help.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:25 PM   #16752
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pulling starter lever

i tapped it off with a sledge & wooden dowel from left side iirc
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:02 PM   #16753
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Name this carb!

Looking at a '94 DR w/ this carb installed. Is this the pumper carb (no longer have detail photo's of my old bike w/ pumper on it)?


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Old 07-18-2013, 05:05 PM   #16754
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Name this carb, part 2.....

This is the other carb that comes w/ the bike. I'm thinking one may be the stock CV unit and the other the TM33 pumper.....any help appreciated.


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Old 07-18-2013, 05:16 PM   #16755
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I Dressed up my DR350 for Backfire moto night in Ballard last night. I had to try and fit in with all the cafe racers. I think I am finally happy with the jetting. I rode her around last night at sea level, and from to 1200 to 4500 feet today. Felt great in all rpm's at all elevations:). I have a 99 se model with the pumper carb. Running a 150 main, 3x4 air box with screen removed, and a white brothers e series pipe with 12! discs in it. That's all the discs I have, hopefully I won't need any more because they seem impossible to find.





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